I've read that AI web searches consume 10xmore than classic Google algorithms. I have no source, but you can guess it is within this kind of range. Google just acquired "mini" nuclear reactors...
AI could be used to tackle useful tasks for humanity, but we use it to amuse ourselves, cheat at school, don't forget military use of course, replace workers, etc etc.
Generally speaking, useless internet gadgets, especially online video are a disaster in terms of energy, and water ressources to cool down the machines.
@pascal macaigne I use a couple of CUDA computers (AI) and use them because they use far less power. An i86 system can use anywhere up to 350 watts although a laptop may be down around 24 watts but Nvidia Nano uses 2 watts and my Xavier (better than the 350 watt i86 system) uses 8 watts so to put that in context my powerful computer uses the same power as my led light bulb. I am not an advocate of AI as it is not what it says on the label and is simply a next stage in computing. It is better, much better but it is not different and certainly is not sentient. AI searches databases much faster and can search images much better so it can diagnose what it can see and compare what is on its camera with the images in its databases in a way that an i86 computer cannot but that is not thinking. The self driving car is not even new technology when you consider how long planes have had autopilots. It is not the technology that is the threat but what can be done with that power. If we ha... show more
@pascal macaigne I use a couple of CUDA computers (AI) and use them because they use far less power. An i86 system can use anywhere up to 350 watts although a laptop may be down around 24 watts but Nvidia Nano uses 2 watts and my Xavier (better than the 350 watt i86 system) uses 8 watts so to put that in context my powerful computer uses the same power as my led light bulb. I am not an advocate of AI as it is not what it says on the label and is simply a next stage in computing. It is better, much better but it is not different and certainly is not sentient. AI searches databases much faster and can search images much better so it can diagnose what it can see and compare what is on its camera with the images in its databases in a way that an i86 computer cannot but that is not thinking. The self driving car is not even new technology when you consider how long planes have had autopilots. It is not the technology that is the threat but what can be done with that power. If we had sane governments it would be wonderful but we do not so for that reason I do not support the technology. Everyone is being told to buy a new car with an AI controller as if everyone buying a new car can help the environment but it is a marketting scam to sell more throw away stuff which harms the environment. It is not the AI that harms the environment but the idea that a car that only lasts 8 years is better than a car that lasts 30 years given that most of the pollution is produced during manufacture and destruction.
Pascal has covered the main argument already. Once a large language model has been trained, you can indeed run it locally with little power consumption, but the largest environmental impact is indeed its training. As Pascal said, there could be uses for these models (although I cannot think of one that is really, really needed) but in general people are just playing with them.
Jamie
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•pascal macaigne
•pascal macaigne
•I've read that AI web searches consume 10xmore than classic Google algorithms. I have no source, but you can guess it is within this kind of range.
Google just acquired "mini" nuclear reactors...
AI could be used to tackle useful tasks for humanity, but we use it to amuse ourselves, cheat at school, don't forget military use of course, replace workers, etc etc.
Generally speaking, useless internet gadgets, especially online video are a disaster in terms of energy, and water ressources to cool down the machines.
AI seems to accelerate the tragedy
Eckhard
•Jamie
•HernanLG
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