I am again not #newhere but have been neglecting #disapora for quite a while now.
As I see there is not much happening here, lot of pods are gone, people are silent.
Indeed, it seems that never caught a traction.
Well, still, I keep the pod alive, though my users seem to have been gone for a while, only a few spambots come from time to time.
like this
grin
My oh my...
Adam Hunt
•Welcome back.
You must not be watching any people or tags. My feed is full all day long, lots of great people, topics, photos, conversations and cats...
V. T. Eric Layton
•Easy Velvet
•harry haller
•If no one on your pod is following person X, you won't see any of X's posts in their profile.
grin ✅
•@Adam Hunt I do, but I have not added anyone for 2-3 years now, so people who were active, say, 4 years ago may not be active today.
There are stable points, like the guy I'm following for a while (called Adam something, like Blunt or Mount or like, and indeed, my stream is almost consisting images from him, oh, and cats), but most of the traffic was now from relay-bots.
The two main problems:
1. there are no "friends" here so I don't directly add people I know
2. discovering new people on a little pod is almost impossible.
So it seems that the "expected" way of operation is to register "sensor" accounts of large ("centralised") instances to discover people, then add it to your normal account, which is, how to put it, very weird and ineffective. Basically I, the human have to do a lot of stuff which would be best fit for machines, connecting various pods, retrieving (manually) traffic, and then "copying" stuff (accounts) from there to here.
grin ✅
•@harry haller yes, you basically say that Disapora should be centralised, otherwise there is no "public stream".
Same thing goes for everything "federated" like #mastodon: small instances get zero traffic and visibility, so decentralisation equals segmentation and disarray. 🙁
Adam Hunt
•harry haller
•@grin ✅
Or do it like on usenet: periodically shifting files between pods. The object generally raised against that is "confidentiality".
Adam Hunt
•grin ✅
•@Adam Hunt I think I should re-read the D* protocol and how it's suposed to work; right now I believe that your suggestion doesn't work the way you believe it does, which aligns with my preceived working of the protocol. Namely, following a hashtag does not pull (federate) posts from all the pod networks, only sift through the local pod.
My example is #linux, which I am following, and the last non-german post apart from you and @dianea (and a few bots) was 2 months ago (from @danie10). If one post in 2 months is full, then it is.
I also follow #disapora and indeed, it has a lot of posts, but reading about the network itself feels like having a great time with myself.
I do not intend to follow any image-based stream, cats or else. If I wanted I'd be on Instagram (I am not even registered I think). I am more of a content person instead of an image (meme) one.
grin ✅
•It is true that you can follow anyone on a reachable pod, provided you have their id.
grin ✅
•@harry haller yes, exactly, and it's baffling that I would need to do that manually.
My pod have a list of all the pods so theoretically the server could collect me public posts from some or all pods. Probably not forever and not older than a few days, unless there are a very few of them. That's what machines are for, why should I needed to do that manually?
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•The few things I see missing here are the social circle logic of G+ that was quite valuable. I could have a page of Linux, one of electronics, industrial controls, and another of cats. Many of my diverse interests would not fit everyone's circles. That was the great power of G+ that is missing here.
Not many people here would be excited about me posting about the crazy stuff I'm about to do with a new package of IGBT transistors and RISC-V boards.
And since I work with a lot of stress relating to class disparity in manufacturing, not many would appreciate my comments about horrific bootlickers
Adam Hunt
•grin ✅
•@Adam Hunt try that on a small pod, you're on diasp.org, which probably have pulling content from everywhere.
My pod possibly will not pull all content from diasp.org tagged whatever, but I do not remember the protocol at all now. It is a fact that on my pod (where I am now possibly the sole user) #linux pulls about 10 posts a month.
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•Robbie
•grin ✅
•Google+ Circles were similar, where you "tag" your contacts, and you can both choose who to read, or choose who can read your post.
A little bit like groups, yes, but you can target multiple groups at once.
Adam Hunt
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•Adam Hunt
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