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People who know about #Mastodon and the #Fediverse, YET are NOW saying that "oh look, finally some Twitter competitor with #Threads, let's go there" without any convincing argument to why they do this can't be taken seriously.

Like, what are you, some braindead corpo zombies? 🧟
#fediverse #mastodon #threads

Look I don't want to be that always cynical yelling at clouds person, but I wasn't that convinced by the @Mastodon statement. It was heavy on describing what the platform looks like right now, and extremely careful to not make any promises about the future, talk about moderation standards, or acknowledge any economic power imbalance between #Meta and the #fediverse. Also cherry-picked XMPP example over, e.g. email which has been raised by users. #threads
#fediverse #meta #threads @Mastodon

In recent weeks some, but not all, of the information about #Threads that fired up the community here was based on rumors, guesses and speculation. Tomorrow, we'll finally learn the truth.

I completely support anyone’s decision to defederate, block or otherwise not interact with that platform. But if you do, I implore you do so because of truthful statements and reporting and not misinformation based on fear.
#threads

#Meta's #Threads wanting to federate with the #fediverse (if that will ever happen 🤞🏻) is a form of #gentrification. A large corporate shopping mall settles in a nice neighborhood with small local run shops and community centers. The new shopping mall says 'if we settle here, more people will come, and you all will benefit'. A few years later all small shops are bankrupt and the community is destroyed. What remains is a barren corporate landscape.
#fediverse #meta #threads #gentrification

#Threads won’t support Activitypub or the Fediverse at launch, but it’s apparently still coming.

“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming”

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/
#Meta

TechCrunch is part of the Yahoo family of brands

techcrunch.com
#meta #threads

Y'all, Meta isn't launching their Twitter alike in the EU because it would be _literally illegal there_ due to all the privacy and data collection issues they plan on having: https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.html

...and some of you want to federate with them?!?!

#p92 #meta #threads

No Instagram Threads app in the EU: Irish DPC says Meta's new Twitter rival won't be launched here

Meta will not launch its new Twitter rival, Threads, in Ireland or the EU for the foreseeable future.
Adrian Weckler (Independent.ie)
#meta #P92 #threads

⚠️ Hey #MastoAdmin FYI there is a Mastodon security update apparently coming 6 July.

EDIT: Interestingly, the same day #Facebook #Threads launches. Hmm... 🤔

The reason you probably didn't know about it, is because it was only announced* behind a proprietary centralized paywalled garden. (Not Twitter, but the same effect.)

Be ready.

* This is not a recommended way to run an #OpenSource community.
Screenshot of Gagron announcing a security update for all current releases of Mastodon.
#facebook #mastoadmin #opensource #threads

If #Meta wanted to mine your content to populate #Threads but didn’t want to federate their own content to the #Fediverse, they wouldn’t use ActivityPub for this purpose. They would use RSS—which is enabled by default on most Mastodon servers. In many ways, it would probably be easier for Meta to do this too.

Salvatore Denaro

2023-06-29 03:17:18


My expectation is that meta would allow users to see federated content but would not allow threads to be federated.

This would provide incentive for people to move to threads. After a while, the walls around the garden would grow.

It's the same embrace, extend, extinguish model they used with MySpace when they rolled out Facebook connect.

#fediverse #meta #threads

oh, here's some JUICY rumored details about meta's plans for the fediverse

tl;dr "Meta will only federate with select larger instances from the beginning. There will be contracts which also provide for financial compensation for the instance owners."

can't entirely verify their validity but it's still worth posting just in case

#FediPact #barcelona #project92 #p92 #meta #facebook #fediverse #fediblockmeta #FediAdmin #MastoAdmin #threads
Louis @louis@emacs.ch You make some strong arguments here. It's great to see you laying out your reasoning in detail and with passion. theart: That's the spirit. What | have learned, however, is that Meta will only federate with select larger instances from the beginning. There will be contracts which also provide for financial compensation for the instance owners. Meta positions itself as a “savior’, because especially the big instances have a very strong financial pressure. Users take it for granted that someone else is paying for everything. In these contracts, Meta also specifies the rules regarding the moderation. Instances will have the option of allowing ads from Meta or not (with the benefit of additional compensation). Smaller instances will have the possibility to register for a federation with Meta in a second step, but there will be no financial compensation and Meta decides if they will grant access based on their reputation.
Regarding Meta, I'm in the industry for 25 years and have a few friends who worked at Meta from the early years until recently. One s stil there. Regarding UFol, | was part of the disussion at the time, we held a vote at Emacs.ch P R S But don' take this at face value, obvisouly these admins have to sign harsh NDAS. But it sounded very credible and | could not imagine it going any ther way. Examples of big instances (from Japan | believe?) show that the long-term burdens are simply unbearable and operators just wait for the right moment to e 1donot critizise Meta for their attempt to use the favor of the hour to their ‘advantage. As a public corporation its theijob to make proft. As I said, its not them who will decide the fate of the Fediverse. ‘Overworked/stressed out admins, high costs for infrastructure, ongoing disputes ‘and moderation challenges are what threaten the Fediverse. It was not meant to ‘9row o fast before we find common solutions for these issues. What do you think?
#fediverse #facebook #mastoadmin #meta #fediadmin #P92 #barcelona #fediblockmeta #threads #project92 #fedipact

#twitter #facebook #Instagram #fediverso #meta #threads #zuck #instancias #nda #pacto @stux⚡

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