Google announced that starting in June 2024, ad blockers such as uBlock Origin #uBO will be disabled in Chrome 127 and later with the rollout of Manifest V3 (#Mv3).
The new #Chrome manifest will prevent using custom filters and stops on demand updates of blocklist. Only #Google authorized updates to browser extension will be allowed in the future, which mean an automatic win for Google in their battle to stop YouTube #AdBlockers .
#ManifestV3 is deceitful and threatening to your privac
... show moreGoogle announced that starting in June 2024, ad blockers such as uBlock Origin #uBO will be disabled in Chrome 127 and later with the rollout of Manifest V3 (#Mv3).
The new #Chrome manifest will prevent using custom filters and stops on demand updates of blocklist. Only #Google authorized updates to browser extension will be allowed in the future, which mean an automatic win for Google in their battle to stop YouTube #AdBlockers .
#ManifestV3 is deceitful and threatening to your privacy, and now is a good time to switch to #Firefox (@mozilla) and/or #TorBrowser (@torproject) if you haven't done so already!
EFF (@eff) on Google’s Manifest V3:
⚠️https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening
⚠️https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation
Chrome Manifest V3 Transition Timeline (2023-11-16)
🚩https://developer.chrome.com/blog/resuming-the-transition-to-mv3/
EDIT for clarification: MV3 in Chrome will still allow some ad blocking extensions, but will severely limit their blocking ability and even restricts pre-set filters to 50 MAX.
Like FLoC and Privacy Sandbox before it, Google Chrome’s Manifest V3 is another example of the inherent conflict of interest that comes from Google controlling both the dominant web browser and one of the largest internet advertising networks.
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•But I see people moving from #Chrome to other browsers (opera, brave, ...) just because of the ad blockers, so yes, it works.
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•If people are moving from Google Chrome to other Chrome-based browsers, the only one that is winning here is Google.
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•@vv221
I am no zealot, I have absolutely no problem with Google earning money as long as they don't cause me harm. If they develop an otherwise great browser (because, let's face it, it is), and the OS version doesn't object adblockers and other extensions then it is okay with me.
OTOH firefox has its own huge problems, so whatever you say there will be someone telling "then XYZ will win".
I can't shed a tear for that.
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vv221
•I guess by your definition I am a zealot ;) But obviously I do not see myself as one, only as someone concerned by the quasi-monopoly Google has on the World Wide Web, and refusing to help them turn Google Chrome as the de-facto Web standards reference.
Another way to read that is that Google is causing me harm already, so supporting them in any way would be a self-destructive behaviour.
PS : Firefox, and especially Mozilla, can be a pain. And often is. But never on the level of Google Chrome.
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•First, about every largish company "cause you harm" in some direct or indirect way, so you oughta stop using computers. Second, many of these cause you advancements the same way and you're probably oblivious about that. Third, you mix up chromium and chrome. Fourth, right now it's Mozilla who is helping that "de-facto standard" by implementing the same shit, having dropped extension API and implemented webextensions.
But that's a religious debate 😁
vv221
•I don’t use a smartphone. I don’t use any Google service. I don’t use Windows. I don’t use Steam. I feel quite at ease when comparing my uses with my beliefs ;)
I am not telling you what you are oblivious to, please make the same kind of effort.
I do not mix them up by accident. What I want to avoid is the transformation of this browsers family into the de-facto Web standard, and for that there is no difference to make between Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Vivaldi or Brave.
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I don’t use a smartphone. I don’t use any Google service. I don’t use Windows. I don’t use Steam. I feel quite at ease when comparing my uses with my beliefs ;)
I am not telling you what you are oblivious to, please make the same kind of effort.
I do not mix them up by accident. What I want to avoid is the transformation of this browsers family into the de-facto Web standard, and for that there is no difference to make between Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Vivaldi or Brave.
Because Google Chrome is so dominant, Firefox has no choice but following what is imposed to them or fade even further into irrelevance. I am not happy about their choice, but I think going the other way would have been even worse.
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> I don't use a smartphone. …
Well, I have to admit that then you're quite exceptional and pretty consistent with your actions (I don't think it's "belief".) Of course it also means that you can't/don't use various services, but that's really within the free choice area.
> I am not telling you what you are oblivious to
Sorry. I meant "you may be not knowing about that" but my space was limited. So I came over to Friendica where there is no 500 characters limit. 😄
So you are maybe aware that lot of base RFCs (which are the design of the internet, so to say) are developed and created by Google, Microsoft, Cisco, Facebook and other giants, so if you're using almost any internet technology you're utilising their work. I trust you're using internet, right? 😀
> chrome vs chromium
Browser engines are hard to develop, we have seen that around Safari and Opera. Gecko is pretty good except javascript is slow as a dead snail; since Google services depend on javascript their engine is almost a magnitude faster than Mozillas.
... show more> I don't use a smartphone. …
Well, I have to admit that then you're quite exceptional and pretty consistent with your actions (I don't think it's "belief".) Of course it also means that you can't/don't use various services, but that's really within the free choice area.
> I am not telling you what you are oblivious to
Sorry. I meant "you may be not knowing about that" but my space was limited. So I came over to Friendica where there is no 500 characters limit. 😄
So you are maybe aware that lot of base RFCs (which are the design of the internet, so to say) are developed and created by Google, Microsoft, Cisco, Facebook and other giants, so if you're using almost any internet technology you're utilising their work. I trust you're using internet, right? 😀
> chrome vs chromium
Browser engines are hard to develop, we have seen that around Safari and Opera. Gecko is pretty good except javascript is slow as a dead snail; since Google services depend on javascript their engine is almost a magnitude faster than Mozillas. I am sad to see engines biting the dust but I don't think people would choose to use inferior stuff to support the vague theory of heterogenity. If the engine is not restricting I am okay with it, if there are no alternatives, instead of not using it at all. And Chromium is still open source (as well as AOSP), just needs work to ungoogle it. But that's significantly less work than rewriting it, and better.
> Firefox has no choice
Hold on a minute! If they have "no choice" as the second largest browser then what do we even want?
I do not believe that they had no choice. People move from browser to browser (unless it's wired into their OS but the EU did some strong steps against that) so if Firefox was still flexible then lot more people would use it. But it isn't, it has been converted to a slower chromium. It was their choice, not Google's (especially that Google actually pay them to do whatever they choose to). And it is also their choice that they stopped fixing security and privacy API calls and concentrated on coloring the buttons and animate the background.
But, regarding you calling me troll, I have not say zealot means not supporting Google. I said that zealot means hating Google for earning money on doing whatever, just because of that. Not knowing about their positive impacts and even rejecting their existence. Rejecting their engine even when it can be used with adblockers and other techy stuff, just because it is mainly developed by Google. I did not imply you are a zealot, it was you who picked that for yourself.
vv221
•Wait, why am I wasting my time here when my interlocutor already admitted that refusing to support Google is being a zealot, but supporting Google is a perfectly normal behaviour?
I’m usually better than that at spotting trolls…
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•I mean there are people who "hate Google because they have to be hated" and do not want to debate about that.
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•vv221
•Many people who fell for the marketing of Google Chrome sock puppets: chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.
You usually recognize them from the energy they put into pretending that the Web browser they use is not related to Google Chrome in any way.
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@vv221 deliberately misinterpreting people isn't helping your reputation.
Also, you seem to know very little about those you're talking about if you believe these are all the same.
Also, if you think it's marketing just to and check independent speed tests (if you don't want to measure stuff for yourself). I am actively using FF (nightly) and Chromium (debian) and I think I have a quite realistic and experience based opinion.
What do you have?
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(Its javascript is about 2-3 times faster than gecko, webgl is about 10 times.)