I have a very remote relationship with #autism, but this thread spells good reasons to steer clear of most autism-related public campaigns regardless of your own relationship with autism.
Damn, it is super painful to try to read this twitter-trash, cut apart every half sentence. People are insane using that trash for such purposes, autistic or not.
Someone please tell me what the suggested solution was, I lost focus in the middle.
Okay, that's I got, but lost patience waiting for what _shall_ I do, or who shall I listen to, who shall I support? I do not like "don'ts", I prefer "dos".
And I even kind of doubt that the author has unanimous support from all "autists".
lost patience waiting for what shall I do, or who shall I listen to, who shall I support? I do not like "don'ts", I prefer "dos".
There are no magic bullets, if you decide to involve yourself in this topic you're gonna have to do a bit of research. This in any case is the best way it can be put: "Don't support autism-related campaigns unless you have the assurance it's by and for autistic people".
Most autism groups founded / led by neurotypicals (preferrable to abled/disabled, see [1]) rarely fill any positions with autistic people, o are even ever consulted. It's a big business where medical professionals stand to make huge amounts of money, and of "concerned" parents trying to beat their autistic kids into "normalcy" because their autism is in some way inconvenient or disturbing to their NT lives.
[1]: Most autistic people would subscribe to the social model of disabilty, where the idea is we are not disabled, but rather are disabled (used as a verb) by society. In my house by myself I h... show more
Avoid anything by "Autism Speaks". They're awful
lost patience waiting for what shall I do, or who shall I listen to, who shall I support? I do not like "don'ts", I prefer "dos".
There are no magic bullets, if you decide to involve yourself in this topic you're gonna have to do a bit of research. This in any case is the best way it can be put: "Don't support autism-related campaigns unless you have the assurance it's by and for autistic people".
Most autism groups founded / led by neurotypicals (preferrable to abled/disabled, see [1]) rarely fill any positions with autistic people, o are even ever consulted. It's a big business where medical professionals stand to make huge amounts of money, and of "concerned" parents trying to beat their autistic kids into "normalcy" because their autism is in some way inconvenient or disturbing to their NT lives.
[1]: Most autistic people would subscribe to the social model of disabilty, where the idea is we are not disabled, but rather are disabled (used as a verb) by society. In my house by myself I have no disabilities, I am disabled (verb) by others when I go out into a world designed to cater to NTs, and not neurodivergent people.
I was kind of hoping some page to exist and run by authentic people listing all/many forum and pages to trust, or even campaigns worth supporting, but I can see why this is a dream.
I am a pretty long-time Wikipedian (thos who know me please stop grinning) and we have a fair share of autistic people of wide variety of "social incompatilibity". This is one reason that I am in a very lucky position to know that autistic people are just like anyone else, since everyone has some kind of oddity, and many of them are excellent writer, professional in their field; also many of them dislike communicating with people for very understandable reasons. None of them ever wanted to "get supported", since they are handled just like anyone else in the community.
So my question was rather hypothetical, or based on curiousity: if I ever see someone asking for support how could I know how to react? But, I confess, I probably would not support any of those since I don't see the point.
@grin I can see you point and i'm with you at heart... but .. yeah....
We sadly have to deal with the choices other people make.... even if it's using twitter where a fediverse post or even a short blog/medium post would have fit WAY better.... mh ;)
bring on neurodiversity acceptance. bye bye normalcy conformity. bye bye conformist normalcy. drop the “disorder” judgement, no matter how well meaning, or how well preened as well meaning.
reminds of picard’s bit to worf at the end of the drumhead episode (s4e21 iirc, st:tng)
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Someone please tell me what the suggested solution was, I lost focus in the middle.
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And I even kind of doubt that the author has unanimous support from all "autists".
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The solution is: Listen to autistic people, not to neurotypicals who claim to speak for autistic people.
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•Most autism groups founded / led by neurotypicals (preferrable to abled/disabled, see [1]) rarely fill any positions with autistic people, o are even ever consulted. It's a big business where medical professionals stand to make huge amounts of money, and of "concerned" parents trying to beat their autistic kids into "normalcy" because their autism is in some way inconvenient or disturbing to their NT lives.
[1]: Most autistic people would subscribe to the social model of disabilty, where the idea is we are not disabled, but rather are disabled (used as a verb) by society. In my house by myself I h... show more
Most autism groups founded / led by neurotypicals (preferrable to abled/disabled, see [1]) rarely fill any positions with autistic people, o are even ever consulted. It's a big business where medical professionals stand to make huge amounts of money, and of "concerned" parents trying to beat their autistic kids into "normalcy" because their autism is in some way inconvenient or disturbing to their NT lives.
[1]: Most autistic people would subscribe to the social model of disabilty, where the idea is we are not disabled, but rather are disabled (used as a verb) by society. In my house by myself I have no disabilities, I am disabled (verb) by others when I go out into a world designed to cater to NTs, and not neurodivergent people.
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I am a pretty long-time Wikipedian (thos who know me please stop grinning) and we have a fair share of autistic people of wide variety of "social incompatilibity". This is one reason that I am in a very lucky position to know that autistic people are just like anyone else, since everyone has some kind of oddity, and many of them are excellent writer, professional in their field; also many of them dislike communicating with people for very understandable reasons. None of them ever wanted to "get supported", since they are handled just like anyone else in the community.
So my question was rather hypothetical, or based on curiousity: if I ever see someone asking for support how could I know how to react? But, I confess, I probably would not support any of those since I don't see the point.
Thanks for all the responses to my curiousity.
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•We sadly have to deal with the choices other people make.... even if it's using twitter where a fediverse post or even a short blog/medium post would have fit WAY better.... mh ;)
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•bring on neurodiversity acceptance. bye bye normalcy conformity. bye bye conformist normalcy. drop the “disorder” judgement, no matter how well meaning, or how well preened as well meaning.
reminds of picard’s bit to worf at the end of the drumhead episode (s4e21 iirc, st:tng)
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