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What can you even wear on OSgrid's Plazas?
I've just come across a picture from #LbsaPlaza which shows a sign that reads all the avatar-related things that are forbidden on the Plaza sims on #OSgrid. Quote:
The sign also says that all OSgrid Plazas are rated G. Remember that the General rating in #SecondLife corresponds to PG, but in #OpenSim, there used to be and still are sims that are unironically both Adult-rated and G-rated, for the Adult rating is often only used as an attempt at keeping child avatars (= paedophiles) out.
So far, so good.
Now you might argue that this list is a counter-measure against rampant trolling, and that the sims which represent OpenSim's oldest and biggest grid should really be squeaky-clean. But the mods at Lbsa Plaza have been described not only as so ultra-conservative that they're openly, unashamedly and aggressively racist, sexist, ableist, homophobic and transphobic, spewing hatred at whatever opportunity they get, but also as prudish, up-tight, strait-laced pseudo-Puritans. "Pseudo" because real Puritans actually weren't as up-tight as commonly believed.
So not only is this list meant seriously, but it can be expected to be both taken to its logical extremes and expanded and escalated further in the near future. Both can easily mean trouble for female avatars.
"No private parts" in combination with "no exceptions" should be expected to mean that female avatars can't go commando on the Plazas. Sounds hard, but still fair enough. Keep in mind, though, that there are plenty of "Athena-rigged" mesh skirts and dresses that cling to the body so tightly that any mesh knickers will clip through.
But if whatever can be seen when camming under the skirt of a female avatar wearing underwear counts, then "no exposed underwear" plus "no exceptions" essentially means no skirts or dresses. At all. For under a skirt or a dress, underwear is always exposed. Only to whoever can look up the skirt or the dress, but still always. And with camming, anyone can look up any female avatar's skirt or dress and see what's underneath. Remember, "no exceptions!" Your underwear must NOT be visible from ANY angle.
Now, keep something else in mind: Some of those big mixed freebie sims that offer Second Life clothes don't offer any jeans or trousers or leggings or outfits containing either, only skirts and dresses. Maybe the sim builder considers them too concealing and therefore not sexy enough, maybe the sim builder simply hasn't found any. If you do all your shopping at such sims, you're stuck with skirts and dresses. And this often also means no skirts or dresses longer than micro-mini where the hemline doesn't go lower than three inches below your crotch.
What can you do then?
Well, you may go look around for freebie stores that offer jeans or trousers, and be it in outfit boxes. Wear these instead of skirts. And to be safe, go find long enough tops that neither bare your midriff (you'll never know when that'll be banned) nor collide with your jeans.
If you absolutely have to wear a skirt or a dress, you have two choices.
Either forgo underwear and alpha out your entire hip area. But you have to remember alpha-ing it out whenever you go to a Plaza, any Plaza actually. In fact, if you're an OSgrid resident, alpha it out before logging out, for when you log back in, your home sim may be down, and you may end up at Lbsa Plaza.
Or put more effort into covering up. Forget knickers, wear leggings. Or opaque tights if you can find any.
No, not nylon for three reasons:
One, nylon is sheer. It lets your underwear shine through which remains a bannable offence.
Two, nylon could be filed under lingerie. This means you could be banned if a little bit of it is visible on your ankles between your jeans and your shoes. "No lingerie" isn't explicitly limited to lingerie in plain sight, it isn't limited at all.
Three, all this doesn't matter anyway to anyone with a Second Life body who only ever wears mesh clothes. You cannot wear mesh nylon tights over mesh knickers, you cannot wear mesh nylon tights underneath about 99% of all skirts and dresses, and you cannot wear a mesh skirt/a mesh dress over mesh nylon tights over mesh knickers at all.
Most female avatars on the Hypergrid would never wear layer clothes. They either have a pre-BoM mesh body, or they do have a BoM-enabled mesh body, but they still don't wear layer clothes. Maybe it's because they believe that BoM is just a fancy new way of applying skins, make-up and tattoos. Maybe it's because they consider layer clothes as outdated as alpha masks. Maybe it's simply because they don't know where to get any layer clothes. Today's freebie stores are all mesh only except for the few pieces of lingerie in the Athena 6 body boxes and that one Athena 6 box with some additional layer lingerie. So they're stuck with mesh.
So they have to go and find mesh leggings. Even if they do find a box with leggings, however, they'll end up discovering that these leggings clip through all of their beloved skirts and dresses. So they have to go and find skirts or dresses that leave enough space to wear something underneath.
Of course, everything would be easier with layer clothes. BoM enables you to wear a mesh skirt over layer leggings over layer tights over layer underwear with no problems at all. It lets you wear leggings or tights underneath everything. No more clipping than if you go commando. You just have to know where to find that stuff, and you must not have a problem with wearing something that's potentially even older than Athena. By the way, it comes with the advantage of definitely being legal. To my best knowledge, nobody has ever stolen layer leggings or tights from Second Life.
Speaking of Athena, there is one big problem with this body that may make wearing layer leggings futile. Athena has a pussy slit in its mesh. Mesh leggings can cover it up. Layer leggings can't; they'll give you a cameltoe. I can see cameltoes or even layer legwear on mesh bodies being banned next, especially if people start obtaining old layer leggings, putting them on their Athenas and then walking around Lbsa Plaza with cameltoes just to troll the mods.
At least a ban on cameltoes won't hit smooth-crotched #Ruth2 v4. A ban on layer legwear on mesh bodies would affect that body undeservedly. A general ban on layer legwear would lock out every last classic avatar, male or female, unless they got themselves mesh clothes from somewhere. In fact, it would make all avatars illegal that are decked out in only what can be obtained from the Plazas.
Okay, so you want to wear mesh jeans instead to be on the safe side? Well, just about all "Athena-rigged" mesh jeans are skin-tight. It's only a question of time until they're being considered too risqué.
For those of us who play immersively and dress their avatars accordingly (like wearing something warm on winter sims), next summer will become difficult, for covering up sufficiently under skirts or dresses will mean wearing too much in the heat. Better get yourselves some shorts, but not too short ones. That is, unless they'll get banned, too, for being too skimpy. Or keep away from the Plazas for two or three months.
By the way, these rules also ban working on outfits within the confines of your home if it happens to be on one of the three homestead Plazas. That's right, you have to constantly cover up underneath your skirt even inside your house with closed opaque curtains. If a mod comes in and decides to cam into your bathroom while you're putting together a formal evening outfit, and he can see your knickers under your floor-length evening gown, you're toast. Banned from all Plazas on the spot and forever. In fact, even changing clothes isn't allowed on the Plazas because your undies may be exposed for a few seconds. You have to do that on third-party sims.
Last but not least: Cary Bean's old Deva Moda sakko outfits, as "business formal" as they are, are forbidden at Lbsa Plaza, too, if you wear them the way they're supposed to be worn. Yes, even if you wear them with the included pair of trousers instead of the included miniskirt or the additional pencil skirt that you can hardly cam underneath. The reason is because the layer tops that come with these outfits don't fully cover up the lace that ligns the upper edges of the bras. This falls under exposed underwear, at least for those who know these garments well enough to be able to tell what on the avatar's skin is underwear and what isn't. If you want to play it safe, leave the bra off.
#OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #VirtualClothing
- No nudity
- No child avatar/NPC/etc
- No sex
- No sex toys
- No BDSM devices
- No spankers
- No exposed underwear
- No diapers
- No lingerie
- No private parts
- No exceptions
The sign also says that all OSgrid Plazas are rated G. Remember that the General rating in #SecondLife corresponds to PG, but in #OpenSim, there used to be and still are sims that are unironically both Adult-rated and G-rated, for the Adult rating is often only used as an attempt at keeping child avatars (= paedophiles) out.
So far, so good.
Now you might argue that this list is a counter-measure against rampant trolling, and that the sims which represent OpenSim's oldest and biggest grid should really be squeaky-clean. But the mods at Lbsa Plaza have been described not only as so ultra-conservative that they're openly, unashamedly and aggressively racist, sexist, ableist, homophobic and transphobic, spewing hatred at whatever opportunity they get, but also as prudish, up-tight, strait-laced pseudo-Puritans. "Pseudo" because real Puritans actually weren't as up-tight as commonly believed.
So not only is this list meant seriously, but it can be expected to be both taken to its logical extremes and expanded and escalated further in the near future. Both can easily mean trouble for female avatars.
"No private parts" in combination with "no exceptions" should be expected to mean that female avatars can't go commando on the Plazas. Sounds hard, but still fair enough. Keep in mind, though, that there are plenty of "Athena-rigged" mesh skirts and dresses that cling to the body so tightly that any mesh knickers will clip through.
But if whatever can be seen when camming under the skirt of a female avatar wearing underwear counts, then "no exposed underwear" plus "no exceptions" essentially means no skirts or dresses. At all. For under a skirt or a dress, underwear is always exposed. Only to whoever can look up the skirt or the dress, but still always. And with camming, anyone can look up any female avatar's skirt or dress and see what's underneath. Remember, "no exceptions!" Your underwear must NOT be visible from ANY angle.
Now, keep something else in mind: Some of those big mixed freebie sims that offer Second Life clothes don't offer any jeans or trousers or leggings or outfits containing either, only skirts and dresses. Maybe the sim builder considers them too concealing and therefore not sexy enough, maybe the sim builder simply hasn't found any. If you do all your shopping at such sims, you're stuck with skirts and dresses. And this often also means no skirts or dresses longer than micro-mini where the hemline doesn't go lower than three inches below your crotch.
What can you do then?
Well, you may go look around for freebie stores that offer jeans or trousers, and be it in outfit boxes. Wear these instead of skirts. And to be safe, go find long enough tops that neither bare your midriff (you'll never know when that'll be banned) nor collide with your jeans.
If you absolutely have to wear a skirt or a dress, you have two choices.
Either forgo underwear and alpha out your entire hip area. But you have to remember alpha-ing it out whenever you go to a Plaza, any Plaza actually. In fact, if you're an OSgrid resident, alpha it out before logging out, for when you log back in, your home sim may be down, and you may end up at Lbsa Plaza.
Or put more effort into covering up. Forget knickers, wear leggings. Or opaque tights if you can find any.
No, not nylon for three reasons:
One, nylon is sheer. It lets your underwear shine through which remains a bannable offence.
Two, nylon could be filed under lingerie. This means you could be banned if a little bit of it is visible on your ankles between your jeans and your shoes. "No lingerie" isn't explicitly limited to lingerie in plain sight, it isn't limited at all.
Three, all this doesn't matter anyway to anyone with a Second Life body who only ever wears mesh clothes. You cannot wear mesh nylon tights over mesh knickers, you cannot wear mesh nylon tights underneath about 99% of all skirts and dresses, and you cannot wear a mesh skirt/a mesh dress over mesh nylon tights over mesh knickers at all.
Most female avatars on the Hypergrid would never wear layer clothes. They either have a pre-BoM mesh body, or they do have a BoM-enabled mesh body, but they still don't wear layer clothes. Maybe it's because they believe that BoM is just a fancy new way of applying skins, make-up and tattoos. Maybe it's because they consider layer clothes as outdated as alpha masks. Maybe it's simply because they don't know where to get any layer clothes. Today's freebie stores are all mesh only except for the few pieces of lingerie in the Athena 6 body boxes and that one Athena 6 box with some additional layer lingerie. So they're stuck with mesh.
So they have to go and find mesh leggings. Even if they do find a box with leggings, however, they'll end up discovering that these leggings clip through all of their beloved skirts and dresses. So they have to go and find skirts or dresses that leave enough space to wear something underneath.
Of course, everything would be easier with layer clothes. BoM enables you to wear a mesh skirt over layer leggings over layer tights over layer underwear with no problems at all. It lets you wear leggings or tights underneath everything. No more clipping than if you go commando. You just have to know where to find that stuff, and you must not have a problem with wearing something that's potentially even older than Athena. By the way, it comes with the advantage of definitely being legal. To my best knowledge, nobody has ever stolen layer leggings or tights from Second Life.
Speaking of Athena, there is one big problem with this body that may make wearing layer leggings futile. Athena has a pussy slit in its mesh. Mesh leggings can cover it up. Layer leggings can't; they'll give you a cameltoe. I can see cameltoes or even layer legwear on mesh bodies being banned next, especially if people start obtaining old layer leggings, putting them on their Athenas and then walking around Lbsa Plaza with cameltoes just to troll the mods.
At least a ban on cameltoes won't hit smooth-crotched #Ruth2 v4. A ban on layer legwear on mesh bodies would affect that body undeservedly. A general ban on layer legwear would lock out every last classic avatar, male or female, unless they got themselves mesh clothes from somewhere. In fact, it would make all avatars illegal that are decked out in only what can be obtained from the Plazas.
Okay, so you want to wear mesh jeans instead to be on the safe side? Well, just about all "Athena-rigged" mesh jeans are skin-tight. It's only a question of time until they're being considered too risqué.
For those of us who play immersively and dress their avatars accordingly (like wearing something warm on winter sims), next summer will become difficult, for covering up sufficiently under skirts or dresses will mean wearing too much in the heat. Better get yourselves some shorts, but not too short ones. That is, unless they'll get banned, too, for being too skimpy. Or keep away from the Plazas for two or three months.
By the way, these rules also ban working on outfits within the confines of your home if it happens to be on one of the three homestead Plazas. That's right, you have to constantly cover up underneath your skirt even inside your house with closed opaque curtains. If a mod comes in and decides to cam into your bathroom while you're putting together a formal evening outfit, and he can see your knickers under your floor-length evening gown, you're toast. Banned from all Plazas on the spot and forever. In fact, even changing clothes isn't allowed on the Plazas because your undies may be exposed for a few seconds. You have to do that on third-party sims.
Last but not least: Cary Bean's old Deva Moda sakko outfits, as "business formal" as they are, are forbidden at Lbsa Plaza, too, if you wear them the way they're supposed to be worn. Yes, even if you wear them with the included pair of trousers instead of the included miniskirt or the additional pencil skirt that you can hardly cam underneath. The reason is because the layer tops that come with these outfits don't fully cover up the lace that ligns the upper edges of the bras. This falls under exposed underwear, at least for those who know these garments well enough to be able to tell what on the avatar's skin is underwear and what isn't. If you want to play it safe, leave the bra off.
#OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #VirtualClothing
@Cheryl Furse So you still claim that 100% of all content in #OpenSim is stolen from #SecondLife? Although I've tried to prove to you again and again that this is absolutely FALSE?
Well, then I dare you to tell Shin Ingen, Ada Radius, Serie Sumei etc. and the current maintainer @Austin Tate straight into their faces that the #Ruth2 v4 and #Roth2 v2 mesh bodies are stolen from Second Life and not created by them, and that the bodies are unscripted because nobody in OpenSim can script.
By the way, here is the public source repository for Ruth2, and here is the one for Roth2. Even if these links make you snap into your "dumb blonde" "I don't understand what any of this is, so I'll just pretend it isn't there and ignore it" mode.
I'd like you to tell @Sean Heavy ✅🤙🏻☯🏳️🌈 straight into his face that his mesh bodies #RuthToo and #RothToo, forked from Ruth2 and Roth2, are stolen from Second Life, too, because he can impossibly have done any work on them.
I dare you to tell @Hyacinth 🏳️⚧️ ☮️ straight into her face that her fork #LuvMyBod and her mesh clothes are stolen from Second Life because she can impossibly have worked on any of it herself, because she doesn't even know how.
I dare you to accuse @vrsimility of having stolen everything on his historic Liverpool sims from Second Life down to the buildings.
I dare you to haul your avatar to GridTalk tomorrow, Tuesday, January 3rd, 11 AM grid time which is 8:00 PM CET. Alternatively, Nihilon, Friday, January 6th, same time. Wait for Klarabella Karamell to show up. And when she's there, accuse her in public in front of all the other guests, including the grid owners and her husband, of having no skills, never having created a single piece of mesh clothing and having copybotted them all from Second Life instead. While you're there, accuse Anachron Young of having copybotted the Rockhouse building from Second Life.
And I dare you to return to OpenSimWorld and tell Aaack Aardvark and Bibiana Bombinante that they're both unskilled, talentless hacks who have copybotted everything on their sims from Second Life and who couldn't write scripts to save their lives.
While you're back at OpenSimWorld, claim to everyone, site creator and admin Satyr Aeon included, that even the OpenSimWorld beacon was stolen from Second Life, script included, because a) nothing has ever been created in OpenSim, and b) Satyr isn't even capable of creating anything like this.
What do you have to lose, Cheryl? Why should you chicken out now? You know for a fact that you're right, that literally everything in OpenSim without an exception is copybotted from Second Life with crappy scripts or none at all!
Oh, and concerning only 200 OpenSim users worldwide: Hypergrid Business has a list of active OpenSim grids. 407 grids. All with links that you can click. You'll see that just about every last one of them is alive. Click on them, and you'll see that none of them is fake.
I ask you, Cheryl: Who runs these grids? If there are only 200 OpenSim users worldwide, everyone of them has to run two grids on average. How many grids do you run, Cheryl? And why should someone run more than one grid?
@The Aether Dragon Ignore her. She's a clueless loudmouth that just about nobody in the OpenSim community takes seriously anymore, probably not even her in-world BDSM sugardaddy.
When she had been in OpenSim for only two measly months, she was already Little Miss Know-It-All who knew everything, absolutely everything better than people who had been there for several years already, and she told them all that they're all wrong, and she is the only one who knows stuff for a fact.
If you present her any proof against her theories, she'll either claim it's fabricated and falsified, and that's a fact, or if she can't because the proof is too solid, she'll turn into a "dumb blonde" who doesn't understand jack shit. Either way, even the most solid proof is useless against her because she ignores it all.
She has grown a hard resistance against learning anything. She thinks she knows doesn't have to learn because she already knows everything, and it's her task to educate the masses that have spent their many years in OpenSim entirely uneducated.
Apart from OpenSim and recently #ThirdRoom, her world only consists of her in-world BDSM sugardaddy, BDSM in general, three musical genres, her Apple MacBook Air and BDSM-modded Resident Evil 2.
Well, then I dare you to tell Shin Ingen, Ada Radius, Serie Sumei etc. and the current maintainer @Austin Tate straight into their faces that the #Ruth2 v4 and #Roth2 v2 mesh bodies are stolen from Second Life and not created by them, and that the bodies are unscripted because nobody in OpenSim can script.
By the way, here is the public source repository for Ruth2, and here is the one for Roth2. Even if these links make you snap into your "dumb blonde" "I don't understand what any of this is, so I'll just pretend it isn't there and ignore it" mode.
I'd like you to tell @Sean Heavy ✅🤙🏻☯🏳️🌈 straight into his face that his mesh bodies #RuthToo and #RothToo, forked from Ruth2 and Roth2, are stolen from Second Life, too, because he can impossibly have done any work on them.
I dare you to tell @Hyacinth 🏳️⚧️ ☮️ straight into her face that her fork #LuvMyBod and her mesh clothes are stolen from Second Life because she can impossibly have worked on any of it herself, because she doesn't even know how.
I dare you to accuse @vrsimility of having stolen everything on his historic Liverpool sims from Second Life down to the buildings.
I dare you to haul your avatar to GridTalk tomorrow, Tuesday, January 3rd, 11 AM grid time which is 8:00 PM CET. Alternatively, Nihilon, Friday, January 6th, same time. Wait for Klarabella Karamell to show up. And when she's there, accuse her in public in front of all the other guests, including the grid owners and her husband, of having no skills, never having created a single piece of mesh clothing and having copybotted them all from Second Life instead. While you're there, accuse Anachron Young of having copybotted the Rockhouse building from Second Life.
And I dare you to return to OpenSimWorld and tell Aaack Aardvark and Bibiana Bombinante that they're both unskilled, talentless hacks who have copybotted everything on their sims from Second Life and who couldn't write scripts to save their lives.
While you're back at OpenSimWorld, claim to everyone, site creator and admin Satyr Aeon included, that even the OpenSimWorld beacon was stolen from Second Life, script included, because a) nothing has ever been created in OpenSim, and b) Satyr isn't even capable of creating anything like this.
What do you have to lose, Cheryl? Why should you chicken out now? You know for a fact that you're right, that literally everything in OpenSim without an exception is copybotted from Second Life with crappy scripts or none at all!
Oh, and concerning only 200 OpenSim users worldwide: Hypergrid Business has a list of active OpenSim grids. 407 grids. All with links that you can click. You'll see that just about every last one of them is alive. Click on them, and you'll see that none of them is fake.
I ask you, Cheryl: Who runs these grids? If there are only 200 OpenSim users worldwide, everyone of them has to run two grids on average. How many grids do you run, Cheryl? And why should someone run more than one grid?
@The Aether Dragon Ignore her. She's a clueless loudmouth that just about nobody in the OpenSim community takes seriously anymore, probably not even her in-world BDSM sugardaddy.
When she had been in OpenSim for only two measly months, she was already Little Miss Know-It-All who knew everything, absolutely everything better than people who had been there for several years already, and she told them all that they're all wrong, and she is the only one who knows stuff for a fact.
If you present her any proof against her theories, she'll either claim it's fabricated and falsified, and that's a fact, or if she can't because the proof is too solid, she'll turn into a "dumb blonde" who doesn't understand jack shit. Either way, even the most solid proof is useless against her because she ignores it all.
She has grown a hard resistance against learning anything. She thinks she knows doesn't have to learn because she already knows everything, and it's her task to educate the masses that have spent their many years in OpenSim entirely uneducated.
Apart from OpenSim and recently #ThirdRoom, her world only consists of her in-world BDSM sugardaddy, BDSM in general, three musical genres, her Apple MacBook Air and BDSM-modded Resident Evil 2.
GitHub - RuthAndRoth/Ruth2: Virtual World Mesh Female Avatar
Virtual World Mesh Female Avatar. Contribute to RuthAndRoth/Ruth2 development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
My 2022 Christmas present to the community
I've made something for those of you who either have or would like to have a #Ruth2 v4 mesh body:
Nail polish. The first third-party nail polish for this body.
As you can see, it comes in two boxes. The one on the left contains the same 22 colours previously available as presets in the nail polish applier for Ruth 2.0. As a bonus, there's a mint nail polish derived from the standard setting on a copy of the same nail polish applier which I found in the #RothToo box.
The one on the right contains the 8 colours from the Ruth2 v4 HUD that aren't meant to be nail bed colours. Using the HUD for actual nail polish is a kluge anyway because it leaves the same white tip that's necessary for a proper nail bed. BoM nail polish, on the other hand, covers the entire nail.
Altogether, it's 31 colours.
Now, nail polish for Ruth2 v4 is not only based on Bakes-on-Mesh, it also makes use of so-called Universal Wearables which weren't available before #OpenSimulator 0.9.1.1. Unfortunately, older #OpenSim versions can't ignore Universals. Instead, if you try to teleport into a sim running an OpenSim version that's too old (including 0.8.2.1 as well as Arriba), you'll get the message that "your avatar is too complex".
Also, obviously, the nail polish won't become visible until you switch your nails to BoM with Ruth2 v4's own HUD. But it's all explained in the Readme notecards that come with the boxes.
As of now, the only place where you can get the boxes is my bodyshop in the Westend on #DorenasWorld (
OpenSimWorld: https://opensimworld.com/hop/80119
Westend - OpenSimulator Metaverse Region
Visit the Westend OpenSim region. Stadtviertel mit schönen Parkanlagen. :-)OpenSimWorld