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•Felix Tiede
•The point is, that the term "Free WiFi" usually refers to a setup where one of these two devices is, among other things, more or less directly connected to what is nowadays commonly referred to as "the internet": a system which does allow more or less unfiltered communication with almost any endpoint reachable by said "internet", where the word "Free" also indicates that this setup is actually (cost-)free to be used by any WiFi-capable endpoint within reception range of the antennae involved.
Hence: No. "WiFi" is neither "internet", nor "a connection to a private internet connection". Wifi is, at best, a connection to a private network, which happens to be quite often but not necessarily everytime configured such way that the connecting party is allowed to use the private network's connection to the internet.
However, since "the internet" does in itself not exist at all as it is in the end just the sum of all the interconnected private networks from the big intercont... show more
The point is, that the term "Free WiFi" usually refers to a setup where one of these two devices is, among other things, more or less directly connected to what is nowadays commonly referred to as "the internet": a system which does allow more or less unfiltered communication with almost any endpoint reachable by said "internet", where the word "Free" also indicates that this setup is actually (cost-)free to be used by any WiFi-capable endpoint within reception range of the antennae involved.
Hence: No. "WiFi" is neither "internet", nor "a connection to a private internet connection". Wifi is, at best, a connection to a private network, which happens to be quite often but not necessarily everytime configured such way that the connecting party is allowed to use the private network's connection to the internet.
However, since "the internet" does in itself not exist at all as it is in the end just the sum of all the interconnected private networks from the big intercontinental carriers down to the private networks of apartment renters, hotels and coffee shops, every such private network being connected to that system of interconnected private networks is by definition actually a part of "the internet", it is therefore indeed correct to assume that an offered free-to-use WiFi system is in fact a free connection to the internet and thus "the internet".
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Felix Tiede
•The context was not ignored, the message received not misinterpreted.
It's just, the sender's expectations were not met.
The sender sent a question and got an answer. That the intention was actually not to get an answer but to have that question interpreted as an actual plea to take action is not necessarily the receiver's fault.
There are human beings on this planet who struggle with such hidden intentions, regardless of their otherwise perfectly normal working "common sense". And it is the message sender's responsibility to adjust its own expectations and transmit intentions such way the receiver actually sees the intention behind the message.
And yes, there are times when my friends and I deliberately interpret such messages with hidden intentions the way they were received - without those intentions - just for the fun of it, and to remind people that they do not know and can not assume if their peer in such a conversation is actually capable of getting the hidden intentions in a question like that.
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Yeah, you are.
The original post was "I love you more than free WiFi" which is very hard to undeliberately misinterpret, since the common observer do know that it is not even about "WiFi" but the cultural context of "loving you more than one of my most basic needs (and the same time making a joke out of my generation)".
On the wider context "free WiFi" means free internet access, where it's not about TCP packet contents, not computer network architecture but the wider context to have free access to desired services and connections (compared to my boundless love, obviously).
It is a great pastime of some to point out that either common sentences or common ideas are not obvious for uncommon people (be they handicapped in body or mind, or living in a different society), ignoring that messages do have their intended target audience. It ha... show more
Yeah, you are.
The original post was "I love you more than free WiFi" which is very hard to undeliberately misinterpret, since the common observer do know that it is not even about "WiFi" but the cultural context of "loving you more than one of my most basic needs (and the same time making a joke out of my generation)".
On the wider context "free WiFi" means free internet access, where it's not about TCP packet contents, not computer network architecture but the wider context to have free access to desired services and connections (compared to my boundless love, obviously).
It is a great pastime of some to point out that either common sentences or common ideas are not obvious for uncommon people (be they handicapped in body or mind, or living in a different society), ignoring that messages do have their intended target audience. It happens to be a subclass of deliberate misinterpretation, though. Often funny, sometimes failing.
Your friends and you like to play with language, and so I consider immediately myself to be one of your friends, since, as you may have noticed, I also act as a smartass.
Maybe my problem was that it wasn't witty enough. :shrug
Felix Tiede
•Fun fact: Shouting "Working WiFi" at me makes me smile - enough so for photographers to get a good-mood-shot of myself.
Mind you, it uses the same linguistic trick as that "Love you more" sign…