Hi there,
here kinda "long shot wild idea".
To a certain extent the activityPub (or fediVerse) related coder and helpers community is some how scattered not only in the federation itself but also over tons of platforms, including github, own wikis and forums, git instances and alike.
At the same time friendica itself is and pretends to be like the interconnecting node between as many platforms as possible.
Wouldn't it be reasonable and positive for the fediVerse as a whole to gather around some place to improve communication, interoperability and so on?
Same consideration might apply for git.friendi.ca.
Not sure how much work for example in terms of moderation this very support forum implies, and if such a proposal would mean more work load for those who are in charge of both subdomain projects, but in general it looks to me that on one hand a lot of work is wasted on maintaining all those scattered sites and on the other, this could be a step towards escaping centralized dependencies, better support for the fediVerse in general and in the case of github maybe even a step forward for the independence of the coding community around actvitypub.
friendica and it's community has a long enough trajectory in the space to imply enough trust as for being a serious and respectful offer to all I think.
Hypolite Petovan
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utopiArte
•To begin with @Hypolite Petovan, the original idea is to offer for example to projects like @YunoHost :neopossum_box: or @Castopod 😛odcasting2: a profile on forum.friendi.ca, the same way our very @Friendica Support works.
... show moreMost #fediVerse platforms have profiles on their own platform and/or a #mastodon profile, because that's the kinda standard thought and behavior. But actually to me it looks li
To begin with @Hypolite Petovan, the original idea is to offer for example to projects like @YunoHost :neopossum_box: or @Castopod 😛odcasting2: a profile on forum.friendi.ca, the same way our very @Friendica Support works.
Most #fediVerse platforms have profiles on their own platform and/or a #mastodon profile, because that's the kinda standard thought and behavior. But actually to me it looks like the #friendica #communityForum page capabilities exceed by far what mastodon or others have to offer. Well, I haven't digged into the fedi clone of reddit to see if that would be an even better option. What is true tho is that forum.friendi.ca is already long standing and our community has gone a long way, so there is in general terms "no single point of failure" like in other projects that depend on one main figure and that's it.
I consider our helpers community experience here, with all the followers of our helpers page getting resend the help requests posted to the forum, chiming in to help out and solve issues, very positive. So this is a proven setup and could help lot's of other projects out here too. Actually I do think that if implemented and adopted, it even could have a positive feed back loop for friendica itself, but that's like something on another page.
So having forum.friendi.ca already up and running, why not support the fediVerse community opening our doors to those who fulfill certain basic community standards?
This server here (tupambae.org) as well is only mend to be a forum server, and of course it's doors are open for any #fediPlatform that likes to have an own forum page over here, yet somehow to me it look's like forum.friendi.ca is the first natural and ideal candidate for something like that.
Of course same goes for a #fediAdmin, #activityPub or #APIdeveloppers community support forum, if that is desired or useful.
Right now in general terms the fedi lives on using some tags or maybe some a.gup.pe addresses, but it's actually us who hold and develop that option for more than a decade now inside the federation itself.
Was that more clarifying
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Hypolite Petovan
•@utopiArte Unfortunately some features of Friendica groups are only available from Friendica, like the !-mention that transfers post ownership to the forum account, which means it isn't distributed to your followers that don't also follow the group.
So I don't think it's a good all-purpose solution for the larger Fediverse.
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utopiArte
•Looks to me that I have to disagree @Hypolite Petovan in the sense that their may be certain specific extras only friendicans have, but that doesn't mean that the rest is available for others and that that is already a lot.
Actually my main experience and focus is with mastodon federation, and for what I can see, addressing forum pages I follow makes those toots show up on the forum page and is reflected back to federated instances of followers.
(or am I wrong 🤔 )
Also, if the the !-mention that transfers post ownership to the forum account is something implemented by activityPub specifics and useful, it's more likely that other platforms start to consider to code that implementation too, if they see that it's used and useful. So in any case that would be one of the positive feed back loops I was referring to.
Hypolite Petovan
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Michael 🇺🇦
•!simply is meant to transmit that post only to the group account that then reshares it.Hypolite Petovan likes this.
Hypolite Petovan
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Michael 🇺🇦
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> The ! simply is meant to transmit that post only to the group account that then reshares it.
In other words, it acts on the server side that sends the post, addressing only the forum page at the other instance as recipient with a public post, right?
Doesn't sound like any negative or restrictive effect for the rest of the fedi platforms.
btw
Traviling thru helpers profile here on troet.cafe (mastodon).
Looks normal, besides the disruptive display of single answer toots.
@hypolite
jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ
•> tema en edicion v05
That's spanisch my friend, don't tell me the batteries a fully drained ..
@edit @utopiarte my dear @helpers as it looks like those guys are lost in translation, time, space, the #fediVerse and everything ..
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utopiArte
•jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ wrote:
¡Why do you tell people to not
follow us @jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ ?
jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ
•> ¡Why do you tell people to not
follow us @jesuisatire ?
What are you talking about @utopiarte, are you out of your mind?
I only told them to edit you.
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•TupambAdminOrg [2024.03]
•👩⚖️ @jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ,
can you please stop with your #rolePlay #profileActing stunts in places like this @Friendica Support forum on a distant instance?
It's hard enough to work things out. Just consider this forum a working environment where there is no place for foolish children having fun disturbing the precious minds of hard working freestyling unpaid coders so you can do your recreational #contentCreation stuff.
Even tho it might s
... show more👩⚖️ @jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ,
can you please stop with your #rolePlay #profileActing stunts in places like this @Friendica Support forum on a distant instance?
It's hard enough to work things out. Just consider this forum a working environment where there is no place for foolish children having fun disturbing the precious minds of hard working freestyling unpaid coders so you can do your recreational #contentCreation stuff.
Even tho it might seem reasonable to point out that it can have unexpected consequences and lead to people feeling offended by the naming of the profile @EDIT | don't follow! @utopiArte, please ignore #whiteHatTroll's like
@jesuisatire, and have him at bay, other wise this administration might have a look into the conditions of your profile contract, consider further restrictions, temporary suspension or even en entire freezing of it's activities.@all, sry .. kidd's you know.
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utopiArte
•@Steffen K9 🍮, here are some questions and consideration that I guess concern you in the first place, can you have a look at them?
Inicial post wrote:
Steffen K9 🍮 26/01/2024 wrote:
... show more@Steffen K9 🍮, here are some questions and consideration that I guess concern you in the first place, can you have a look at them?
Inicial post wrote:
Steffen K9 🍮 26/01/2024 wrote:
So we can assume that in general terms this shouldn't be much different for other developer projects and communities. At the same time the back end moderation panel is related to the admin account and can't be handled by other than the admin or an admin team. That moderator panel access basically would be needed for server and user blocking. Being more exposed to general attention that pressure in theory could increase.
The first line of moderation is of course as always the side of the community profile as it is able to block or mute contacts.
Than there is:
Inicial post wrote:
How is the server load right now and what could be expected if other projects open helpers forums on forum.friendi.ca?
Steffen K9 🍮
2024-01-26 10:47:27
utopiArte
•Can you try to mention @Steffen K9 🐰 for me please, somehow it feels like he doesn't get my mentions and respective questions on this topic here.
Steffen K9 🍮
•utopiArte
•ok's
Is there a way to help you or chime in on moderation or administration of forum.friendi.ca to make things like the proposed happen @Steffen K9 🐰 ?