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The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project.
New blog post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1020/the-end-of-peppercarrot-and-my-next-project
A pencil sketch of Pepper and Carrot lost at the crossroads. A remake of a panel of episode 17 "A fresh start".

The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project.

David Revoy

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Erik Uden 🥥🌴🍑
Erik Uden 🥥🌴🍑  
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exciting!! I'm sure your new project will be as lovely as the last one :ablobcatheartsqueeze:
Konstrukto Spons
Konstrukto Spons  
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wow, after a long period of hesitation I decided to make an account on mastodon, just in time to see you blogging about ending pepper & carrot...
It has been a great run and I have learned so much from your approach during it, and downloaded every brush etc.

Bonne chance avec ton projet nouveau! MFT FTW!

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@Konstrukto Oh no, just when I post this blog! 😆 Thank you very much.

And welcome here!

@Konstrukto Spons
Donald Serrot :topazcarbuncle:
Donald Serrot :topazcarbuncle:  
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I'm excited to see more of this magical world! At first I was sad to see it'd be going away, but MFT seems more like an expansion on Pepper&Carrot so it sounds like the world will become fuller and richer with the broadened focus.
Leah (Cloudstylistin)
Leah (Cloudstylistin)  
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I would lie if I said that hearing that Pepper&Carrot will find an end doesn't make me sad. But I wish you all luck for new adventures and projects in your life.
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dwardoric
dwardoric  
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Have fun on your next journey and many thanks for Pepper and Carrot! 🤗
Thomas Frans 🇺🇦
Thomas Frans 🇺🇦  
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I love all your work. Can't wait to see how Pepper & Carrot ends and what the next thing will be.
Rocketman
Rocketman  
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Thank you for all the wonders you’re bringing into the world! 💜💜💜

Life is all about change, good to hear that your projects are evolving.

I look forward to what you’re going to do next! 🍀

Winter Coziness
Winter Coziness  
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I believe it is a wise decision, especially considering that there won't be an abrupt end. I'm a relatively new reader (since 2022), but I think that P&C has been, in many ways, an incredible comic.

I'm eager to read what's to come and I hope MFT will be as good as P&C.

This entry was edited (7 months ago)
ilzo
ilzo  
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Good luck with MFT!
Rémi Letot
Rémi Letot  
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oook, long live P&C, and welcome MFT 😃
🌈 Lascapi
🌈 Lascapi  
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Wow !! Bon courage pour cette fin de projet et pour rebondir pour la suite !
Saverio Brancaccio
Saverio Brancaccio  
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Wow, it will be an interesting story to come! All the best!
Codemichael
Codemichael  
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Congrats on making the difficult and scary decision to try something new. I wish you all the best.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@codemichael Thank you! Oh yes, scary. I started to think about it in October. It took me until now with all the stage of griefs to be able to formulate it, officialize it, and start to know where I'm going next.
@Codemichael
John Colagioia
John Colagioia  
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Sad in one sense, of course, but it seems like you've always at least hinted about seeing a "closed form" story, here, and I'm excited to see where things grow from here.
Jigme Datse
Jigme Datse  
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Look forward to seeing what comes next (not read your post yet). Hope you are well.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@jigmedatse Hey, thank you! I'm fine, I was just a bit brain exhausted yesterday evening after writing this post and condensing all my brainstorming and notes into a single blog post I wanted as short as possible. Fortunately it's a long week-end here at home, and I spent my day cleaning the gutter around the house, cooking and gardening. A super efficient method to get back energy, especially spending time away from my phone, outside.
@Jigme Datse
Jigme Datse
Jigme Datse  
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Here it's basically a 4 day weekend. Sometimes figuring out how to get things the way you want is tricky. I've *tried* to step a bit further away from, "get it absolutely right," and more to, "get it done good enough..."
crAshBanzai
crAshBanzai  
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Looking fwd to the new thing 😀
Marco Bresciani
Marco Bresciani  
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Even though my wife is Japanese, I've never liked Japanese mangas since they always go on forever and you must start from the beginning if you like them.
Still, since I first read it, I wanted Pepper&Carrot to go on forever, also thanks to your #FreeSoftware philosophy and choices.
Anyway, I perfectly understand and respect your choice and I'll continue follow you and your nice projects.
Thank you for entertaining us with your art. 🙏🏻
#freesoftware
Gen X-Wing
Gen X-Wing  
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I think you are right. Going on forever isn’t a good idea, and a good story has a good ending. It’s not like you can’t revisit the characters in the future for a new story. I think you made the sane choice here. Both for yourself and for us, your audience.

(Also I still want an animated Pepper&Carrot😀)

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@breadbin Thank you. I really hope I'll finish Pepper&Carrot correctly and with the same quality until the last page. This new perspective give me extra motivation to reach this milestone and get the '5 books' done. "Finishing a series" feels like a big trophy from my POV right now. 😊
@Gen X-Wing
四
四  
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@breadbin Good luck! Looking forward to the new stuff too!
@Gen X-Wing
Gen X-Wing
Gen X-Wing  
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Can’t sell a complete series collection otherwise😀 I’d say it’s a platinum sized one for sure.
Alex Turff
Alex Turff  
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it's two days early for April the 1st!

The pace of your episodes has been slowing down, so I imagine a lot of us could see that coming. Please end it well 🙂

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@aturff Haha, right! I added a small "edit" disclaimer on the article. Right now, for all timezone already +8 or +9 (in Asia) it's already April Fool, better to disambiguate the post.

Oh yes, the slow-down was caused by me getting new ideas, new formats, wanting to get free of some constrains and not being able to reform the project from the inside. For the next project, I'll study carefully all the bottleneck and simplify simplify simplify and put gatekeepers rules to not recomplexify 🙂

@Alex Turff
YoYunix
YoYunix  
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thank you for what you’ve done for the open source community so far, and good luck with your next projects. 🫡
Steffi the Redhead
Steffi the Redhead  
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I love how there is not even a hint of a sign and roads as well as stones look similar in size.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@fuchsi Thank you, it's a preparatory pencil drawing I made for a panel of the episode 17: A Fresh Start. https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/webcomic/ep17_A-Fresh-Start.html 🙂

Episode 17: A Fresh Start - Pepper&Carrot

Official homepage of Pepper&Carrot, a free(libre) and open-source webcomic about Pepper, a young witch and her cat, Carrot. They live in a fantasy universe of potions, magic, and creatures.
Pepper&Carrot
@Steffi the Redhead
Steffi the Redhead
Steffi the Redhead  
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"Stare them down! Dominate them!"

Dammit. Now I am hooked.
You have a new reader 😁🥰

Steffi the Redhead
Steffi the Redhead  
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Thank you for making it all free.
And I am intrigued by your new project.
冯白诺
冯白诺  
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got a bit scared when I saw the title of the blog post pop-up in my RSS feed, not going to lie 😅 But I'm really looking forward to getting to know more about the world and characters of the Pepper&Carrot universe!
Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻
Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻  
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Je craignais que cela n'arrive à un moment ou l'autre.
Je te soutiendrai bien sûr sans réserve sur ce nouveau projet (même si le mécénat passe de "par publication" à "mensuel", en ce qui me concerne)
Mindiell
Mindiell  
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NFT ? How can you think... oh, ok, MFT ! Sure it will be at least as great as P&C were.
Good luck, and nice work ❤
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@Mindiell 🤣 🤣 🤣
Oh yes, the similar shapes of the acronym with NFTs felt weird. Fortunately, I also found MFT is a short form of My Favorite Thing, and I like this 🙂
@Mindiell
Luc, de retour en Hyrule
Luc, de retour en Hyrule  
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:blobcatheart:
Luc, de retour en Hyrule
Luc, de retour en Hyrule  
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Est-ce qu'il y aura des caméo de P&C ? Et de Superflu¹ ?

¹ :troll:

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@framasky Très probable que oui 🙂 (sérieux) ainsi que Morevna, Sintel, etc... Un des nouveaux fondamentaux de ce projet risque d'être l'adoption de la CC-By-Sa à son origine.
Ce n'est pas encore officialisé, mais très souligné dans mon brainstorming et pas motivé uniquement pour une histoire de compatibilité de licences pour caméos. Trop de dérivés de P&C (jeux de rôles/plateaux/vidéos) m'ont promis l'ouverture de licence et ne l'ont pas fait. Impossible de rétro bénéficier de leurs avancés...
@Luc, de retour en Hyrule
jaldmic
jaldmic  
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Is like a spin off of the main comic?
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@jaldmic In a way, yes: the Wiki will stay, the creatures and the universe will be the same. But an opportunity to see more aspect about it. (eg. seeing the guild of Druids, the bank office for the Ko in Komona, the politic of the Mayor, the comission received by a blacksmith, a young archer, etc...).
@jaldmic
Pixel Doge
Pixel Doge  
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best of lucks! I have enjoyed Pepper & Carrot so I'm very curious to see where their “cinematic universe” goes :neocat_book_owo:
Badri
Badri  
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Pepper & Carrot is my favourite comic series and I would have been sad to see them go...

...which is why it's good to know they'll still be around! It makes sense, to roll back and give yourself a clean slate without constraints. I know from running Snipette that even if you have something going for 10 years (or 6 in our case) it can get constraining to have to stick to your earlier conventions 🧹

Hope the MFT project sets you free, and looking forward to seeing Pepper and Carrot there as well as all the new characters! I didn't know MFT was the original project; it's an interesting story 🧙‍♀️

Also looking forward to the final few episodes, and I'm glad I know in advance rather than suddenly running up against it when the last one drops! 🥕

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@badri Thank you! yes, that's exactly about getting a new chance at changing conventions set into stone on the previous projects. The format, the release, the style, the publishing approach, etc... It's a big chance to recalibrate and reevaluate everything and simplify it to what's more important.
@Badri
Neotheta
Neotheta  
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No project is forever, I'm excited to see what you do with the next one!
Andres Bravo
Andres Bravo  
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That's Fine. I was sad that that after 10 Years it has concluded, but the legacy lives on.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@andresbravo2003 Thank you, I'll also continue to maintain the website even after the 42th episode will be published and provide support for the translation years after the ending. We plan to move our chat and dev forge to a more generic name, maybe "Hereva" for the common world at the root of Pepper&Carrot and Mini Fantasy Theater.
@Andres Bravo
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@me_the_fl00f @andresbravo2003 That's a good idea for a domain name. 👍 I'll bookmark.
@Andres Bravo @The Fl👀f next door ...
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@me_the_fl00f @andresbravo2003 Argh, unfortunately for me I had a check: very pricey on Gandi (not the first year but then, 60€ per year!) I prefer to skip the idea; too bad 😆 .
a screenshot of prices , gandi.net
@Andres Bravo @The Fl👀f next door ...
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@ben Thank you! True, it will be always possible to make a new "special episode" later for the fun if I really miss the long chapter format of Pepper&Carrot.

I of course plan to reuse young Pepper and Carrot in Mini Fantasy Theatre. I'm not 100% sure about the format, but a strip in 4 panels like https://www.peppercarrot.com/0_sources/0ther/misc/hi-res/2022-01-20_Pepper-and-Carrot_mini-comic_02_Imagination_by-David-Revoy.jpg is right now an option I really consider for MFT.

@Ben Rolfe 🌳
Linebyline
Linebyline  
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*checks calendar* Hmm...

Well, good luck! I'll still be reading regardless.

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@linebyline Hey, yes, I should probably edit the toot and add:
"edit: NOT a April Fool joke" or write it in the header of the blog post because if I edit the toot it will pollute all the notifications for those who already saw it.

I should have probably kept that for at least a big week away from the 1st April. But I couldn't keep this for me more: I started thinking about it in October...

And thank you!

@Linebyline
theCamelCaseBandit
theCamelCaseBandit  
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Sad to see Pepper and Carrot winding down, but MFT sounds fantastic! Can't wait!
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@dgouttegattat Thank you so much! I only hope I'm up to the task of writing a good ending and be as similar quality as all the effort I've put into this series over its last ten years.
@Damien Goutte-Gattat
Lioh
Lioh  
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thanks for the great stuff so far. Looking forward to your new project!
Ren
Ren  
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Good luck with new endeavors! And with finishing up a long running series - that must be quite the mix of feelings.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@ziphi Thank you Ren! It's a real continuous brainstorm and emotionstorm. 😆 Not recommended, 1/10.
@Ren
apalu
apalu  
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@ziphi looking forward to salt and beet
@Ren
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:  
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MFT described as short humorous comic strips reminds me a bit of the ComicBattle you did with Gee, which was pretty fun.
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David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@lanodan Yes, on my brainstorming, I have a lot of connections pointing into the direction of posting short scenes directly on social media (like this type of experiments: https://www.peppercarrot.com/0_sources/0ther/misc/hi-res/2022-01-20_Pepper-and-Carrot_mini-comic_02_Imagination_by-David-Revoy.jpg ). And maybe also test to port directly the proofreading on social media thanks to a mix of new technology: the "edit" feature here, 'follower only' type of post, and CW for beta/alpha material. A good mix to open the project more, more than just user who know Git and Gitlab. Many new things to explore!
@Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
lebout2canap ⏚
lebout2canap ⏚  
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Whaaa, ça va faire bizarre quand ça sera le dernier pour de bon, mais au moins Pepper&Carrot aura droit à une vraie fin. Et bravo pour le nouveau projet.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@lebout2canap Merci ! Oui, je suis super curieux de ce que ça fera quand j'aurai publié l'ultime épisode. Bon, j'imagine que ce sera le début du travail sur l'auto-édition avec Scribus du Livre 5 et aussi le travail avec les éditeurs autour de Pepper&Carrot. Mais ça doit être vertigineux après tout ce temps sur la série.
@lebout2canap ⏚
Aleksandra Fedorova :fedora:
Aleksandra Fedorova :fedora:  
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As a proud owner of printed books 1-4 I am looking forward to have a complete collection 😀

I liked all the characters, but I believe that a good story needs a good ending, and if you feel like it - then it is time.

David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@bookwar A big thank you for owning all the books! :blobcatheart: I can't wait to also have the final book 5 in my bookshelf and see the series as "complete".
@Aleksandra Fedorova :fedora:
Sylvia Ritter
Sylvia Ritter  
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Whatever you do, it will be amazing! 💚
HerrThees
HerrThees  
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Thank you for (almost) 10 years of Pepper & Carrot. And thank you for giving it a real ending and for not let it die in silence.
And now I'm looking forward to what's to come. 😊
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@herrthees Thank you. Oh yes about "let it die in silence." : I saw this pattern way too often on other webcomics and I can't even blame their authors. It's a real challenge to reach the end on so many points.
@HerrThees
The Wackerly
The Wackerly  
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Huge respect for this decision. I like it when stories can conclude gracefully rather than in a mad panic or worse, just stuck in limbo. Pepper&Carrot has been a wonderful read so far, and I'm glad we aren't saying goodbye forever to this world. I look forward to MFT and what shenanigans it will bring!
Russ Sharek
Russ Sharek  
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Congratulations!

I had the experience of finishing a long term project rather than letting it end, and that difference was really good for me. I hope it gives you the same combination of closure and motivation to move forward.

Ivan Sagalaev :flag_wbw:
Ivan Sagalaev :flag_wbw:  
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this feels like the right time and a good decision overall. Good luck finishing the book!
Roman
Roman  
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Best wishes for MFT! 😁
Txels :python:
Txels :python:  
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we've so much enjoyed the series, the characters, and the open nature of the project! Merci bien!
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@andre Thank you! I don't have a repository, it's just a single HTML right now temporary hosted in https://www.davidrevoy.com/minifantasytheater/ and it might stay like that until I finish Pepper&Carrot. 😅 I only took it to avoid trolls who would reserve
- https://www.minifantasytheater.com
- https://www.minifantasytheatre.com

(I took both US and UK variant 😆 )

Thanks if you want to improve this single html temporary file! You'll get the source with Ctrl+U on your browser and you can send me back a link with https://pastebin.com/

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@andre
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint  
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I wonder if MFT could become a community project where everyone could do their take within the story setting
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@chengdulittlea True, that's an idea I put in my brainstorming: opening the official website and stream of episode to guest comic posts with various styles. The harder part for me will be to find a format and stick to it, then making it a standard for the series, something I can document and open a sandbox for other to experiment as well in it.
Right now, the 4 panels square format (2x2), all in one image, attracts me a lot. I also like the 4 x 16:9 independant pictures.
@Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
Valentin Petzel
Valentin Petzel  
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I can understand this decision. I can imagine PnC is hard to shape. It has a slow paced approach, focussing more on little wholesome units rather than telling a story, though it has started to pick up more structure over the time.

I would still love to see maybe not more of PnC, but a new take on PnC. Starting on the story, not on the drawing board, and telling a nice story. I can imagine there are some writers and stuff around who'd love to take part in something like that.

Albert Westra
Albert Westra  
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I'm honestly happy that the project is evolving and changing. I'm actually quite fascinated by the world you've created. Honestly whatever project you take on, I will still support you cuz you're an inspiration to the Artists in Open Source Community.
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