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I think I need a vacation... because I actually followed his 'train of thought',
as it's just all his classic sound bites: energy, windmills, making donuts, bad economy, "Only I can save you" bla bla....
But then I'm a #dogwhistle whisperer, and longtime observer of the pre and post-plague #TrumpVirus
Donald Trump was asked how he’d lower grocery prices and his answer was already jaw-dropping, but written down it was incredible
Donald Trump was asked how he'd lower grocery prices and his answer was already jaw-dropping, but written down it was incredible
Donald Trump was back on the campaign trail in the US where he did a Town Hall event with his former press secretary turned Republican governor, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.John Plunkett (The Poke)
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•@Michael Fenichel Something just occurred to me that might be interesting to a cognitive scientist.
You recall the old Osgood Semantic Differential? He suggested there is a semantic space along 3 dimensions - good/bad, potent/weak, active/passive.
What occurred to me is that one major tactic that trump uses is to compress all of his ideas down to something like those three dimensions. For example, "migration" is bad, potent, active. In other words a very dangerous thing.
This simplification, or idea compression, makes it very easy for his followers to coalesce into a common cult narrative. So, compression of certain social concepts into a simple semantic space (while talking to one another) is what sets the cult apart from normal society. Actually the principle applies more generally to all political partisanship. Trump is the pathologically? extreme case.
Trump's pathology seems to be that he and his followers sort of stupefy themselves by believing and act
... show more@Michael Fenichel Something just occurred to me that might be interesting to a cognitive scientist.
You recall the old Osgood Semantic Differential? He suggested there is a semantic space along 3 dimensions - good/bad, potent/weak, active/passive.
What occurred to me is that one major tactic that trump uses is to compress all of his ideas down to something like those three dimensions. For example, "migration" is bad, potent, active. In other words a very dangerous thing.
This simplification, or idea compression, makes it very easy for his followers to coalesce into a common cult narrative. So, compression of certain social concepts into a simple semantic space (while talking to one another) is what sets the cult apart from normal society. Actually the principle applies more generally to all political partisanship. Trump is the pathologically? extreme case.
Trump's pathology seems to be that he and his followers sort of stupefy themselves by believing and acting out a cartoon view of the world. The irony is that that seems to be true of all of us to some extent. It's just that trump's pattern is so unconventional and oversimplified as to make it a form of cult behavior.
Michael Fenichel
•Yes. And salience (for Freud, as"cathexis").
As for compression (.rar ? .jpg? -j-) of concepts, well, ok...
I believe it's the coding, storage & retrieval of 'things' into concepts/categories that's key. [ Reference to Piaget, accommodation/assimilation ], this here from an ancient discussion I had with someone in the world of conservative talk radio.
But, it's not even necessarily, btw, in what we'd agree upon as
That's also a concept, within a web of concepts. (Hm, once I was taught about the 'nomological network' within linguistics & neuropsych.) But - maybe it's just me - but "semantic" implies language-based learning and thinking, with logical/syntactical rules, etc. And it's a fine model, for many people and purposes.
To go one step further, channeling Temple Grandin's "All Kind of Minds" p
... show moreYes. And salience (for Freud, as"cathexis").
As for compression (.rar ? .jpg? -j-) of concepts, well, ok...
I believe it's the coding, storage & retrieval of 'things' into concepts/categories that's key. [ Reference to Piaget, accommodation/assimilation ], this here from an ancient discussion I had with someone in the world of conservative talk radio.
But, it's not even necessarily, btw, in what we'd agree upon as
That's also a concept, within a web of concepts. (Hm, once I was taught about the 'nomological network' within linguistics & neuropsych.) But - maybe it's just me - but "semantic" implies language-based learning and thinking, with logical/syntactical rules, etc. And it's a fine model, for many people and purposes.
To go one step further, channeling Temple Grandin's "All Kind of Minds" perspective on perception, learning, and 'thinking' / 'behaving' / reacting -
some may lean more on visual memory, spatial relationships, music, or patterns to make sense of the blooming buzzing confusion.
Useful continuums, &/or scales to measure a trait or valence ...
Phil Zimbardo sort of appropriates these in his schema of personality of late, which he spoke about in his assessment of Trump's #psychopathology, adding the additional aspects of tense - orientation towards past, present, or future.
Spoiler - thin-sliced, he sees Trump as the most dangerous and unstable/volatile of all types in his model of personality:
Now Zimbardo (shyness, sadism, and Stanford Prison Experiment) is one of the most accomplished, influential and respected social psychologists in history (along with Milgram and Bandura). He's not done personality assessment much, but clearly he's studied all that came before and came up with some adaptations for the most mentally warped 'billionaire' con artist/criminal "in the history of the universe". (Perfect, really). So yes, 100% I agree trump is "pathologically extreme", and that's after working in locked psych wards.
Zimbardo agrees passionately, too, as do a bevy of psychiatrists/psychologists who literally wrote the book on the still-expanding "Dangerous Case of Donald Trump". You can see what he said at http://psychservices.com/Goldwater.shtml. This was a long town hall about "The Goldwater Rule" (of not diagnosing 2nd hand), might be tedious... To go to the heart of it, scroll down to the 3rd photo, of Zimbardo with said book. Read from there.
And yes, totally... the extremism, novelty, and "cult behavior" all play a big role.
"It's complicated". As is #TrumpVirus the #cult & #media phenomenon.
But not him. Consistent as a rock - with slime growing on it.
EGO: The Cauldron of Personality
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