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Only if you’re playing against my 9 year old niece who is the most flagrant cheater around and who has no compunction about changing rules to suit herself.
if you're playing a normal rule-bound board game with people who expect rules to be followed, no. If you're playing the kind of game where scheming and plotting and deception are part of it and the other players will be equally scheming and probably trying to cheat for themselves, yes. (I believe I've seen games with a specified penalty for *being caught* cheating.)
If you are playing for real money, no. If you are playing against the devil for someone's soul in an epic contest, yes.
I have accidentally made a 5 year old cry because I wouldn't let them cheat at Candyland. I don't think it's ever OK to cheat at a game, but children make it awful tempting.
I voted "Rarely" because if the other player is cheating, and you want or need to keep playing with them for some reason, cheating yourself seems like a reasonable response.
More broadly, in the iterated prisoner's dilemma of life, you can end up in a situation where the other player has "defected" or "cheated" outside of the board game. Then, cheating them at the board game may be optimal, using the "tit-for-tat cooperator" strategy.
Depends on the game and depends on who you're playing.
I used to love getting really drunk, then playing chess with other people who were really drunk. This led to statements like "Dude, I think you were in check like 3 moves ago."
oh no! 73% of respondents are *no fun* to play board games with! One very important thing I learned from running asymmetrical games like D&D over the years is that a bit of subtle cheating can enhance the fun of a game for *everyone* at the table.
But also if you're stuck playing a competitive game with a relentless power gamer party pooper who you know is going to win and then be a poor sport about it, why not have a little bit of fun? It's radical self care 😌.
the venerable classic Illuminati has a cheating variation, where only a small number of things are explicitly excluded but everything else is fair game. I was never good at that variation.
I don't count as cheating any change of rules that all players agree on.
To me, cheating means intentionally acting against the rules without the consent of the other players.
So, cheating is about treating the people around you unfairly.
If it's a game for fun, that seems like a real contradiction of the intent of the practice. Winning is usually meaningless. What matters is connecting.
Yeah, I thought of some exceptions too but I answered “never” because they seemed so remote that if “never” didn’t practically apply that it never would. (Heh)
Among the more plausible scenarios was in teaching a game to someone who hadn’t played it before to help them learn strategy. One also might allow a friend to take back a bad move in a friendly game of chess. But if you break rules with the knowledge and consent of your opponent, is that cheating?
@charlesroper I'm on board with that kind of cheating, as long as it's not the usual state of affairs, but done to stop them being frustrated at constantly losing.
You teach them it's not only about winning by modelling the behaviour of a gracious loser (or winner in those cases).
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•If you are playing for real money, no. If you are playing against the devil for someone's soul in an epic contest, yes.
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•I voted "Rarely" because if the other player is cheating, and you want or need to keep playing with them for some reason, cheating yourself seems like a reasonable response.
More broadly, in the iterated prisoner's dilemma of life, you can end up in a situation where the other player has "defected" or "cheated" outside of the board game. Then, cheating them at the board game may be optimal, using the "tit-for-tat cooperator" strategy.
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•I'm "Rarely".
I don't count as cheating any change of rules that all players agree on.
To me, cheating means intentionally acting against the rules without the consent of the other players.
So, cheating is about treating the people around you unfairly.
If it's a game for fun, that seems like a real contradiction of the intent of the practice. Winning is usually meaningless. What matters is connecting.
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•They seem to be mostly constructed thought experiments -- playing a game of Agricola to get life-saving medicine for a loved one -- but OK.
One's own integrity, and honest dealing with other players, is not an absolute good compared to all other goods.
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•Among the more plausible scenarios was in teaching a game to someone who hadn’t played it before to help them learn strategy. One also might allow a friend to take back a bad move in a friendly game of chess. But if you break rules with the knowledge and consent of your opponent, is that cheating?
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•You teach them it's not only about winning by modelling the behaviour of a gracious loser (or winner in those cases).
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•To cheat is to give up on the possibility of genuinely winning.
I can imagine doing so if the game is a means to a more important end. But I've never encountered such a situation outside of fiction.
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