It looks like I'm going to have to move server, and the offer I got isn't available anymore at my current hosting provider, which means I'm going to have to pay more or get less.
I currently have: for 20 euros/month:
CPU: Intel® C2750 (Avoton)
Memory: 8 GB
Disk: 1 TB
Price: 20€/month
The currently available offers that are close to this are: Start-1-L
CPU: Intel® Xeon E3 1220v2
Memory: 16 GB
Disk: 2 x 1 TB
Price: 21€/month
or Pro-4-S
CPU: Intel® Xeon E3 1245v5
Memory: 32 GB
Disk: 3 x 250 GB SSD
Price: 23€/month
My main question is: is the C2750 so much better thanks to its 8 threads than the Xeon E3? I only use my server as a web server, so isn't the thread count more important?
Would the unavailability of the C2750 be a good enough reason to move provider?
@silverwizard Also none of the other hosting providers I've looked have any price remotely close to these for equivalent hardware, so I'm not likely to change.
@silverwizard And yet I've had some hard swapping episodes, like last week. Some Friendica CLI PHP process just takes up all the CPU and the memory for several minutes.
I have very little use for storage, either on this server or anywhere else, so even 1 TB is overkill.
@Hypolite Petovan yeah - I know my instance does a lot of bursty memory needs, but going from 8 to 16 is likely reasonable, but if you get 32, caches could get bigger
@Hypolite Petovan yeah - so that's good, you're not mem stressing (could probably bump buffer if you had more ram)
Is this a dedicated server? If so - yeah - RAID5 or bust, linux softraid wasn't designed by a monste, but it's nowhere near ZFS so I've not used it in years, mdadm is your manpage starting point, but I am out of info. If you are anyway virtualized, don't use RAID
So the plot thickens, for my current server I've been paying:
16€ from January 2016 to December 2021 (5 full years)
17€ from January 2022 to November 2022 (11 months)
19.5€ from December 2022 to September 2023 (10 months so far)
I remember being skittish about upgrading when I was paying 16€ a month, but the price hike has made it relatively more palatable. Good job price hike!
@Brett Stevens Thank you for your reply, I have minimal monitoring set up (ping from third-party service Uptime Robot) so I'd be hard-pressed to answer. I've had periods of high load where my websites wouldn't be accessible but it hasn't happened in the past few months.
@A Sweet Gentleman @Hypolite Petovan Honestly, feels that way for me a lot of the time. There's a lot of numbers, easy to get lost in because the definitions are messy, but I always hope I give good advice.
@Andy H3 I've been told by a support technician that I will be able to set it up during installation. I saw that with 3 disks I can go for a RAID 5 setup which would be ideal given that my backup hygiene is severely lacking.
Hypolite Petovan
•It looks like I'm going to have to move server, and the offer I got isn't available anymore at my current hosting provider, which means I'm going to have to pay more or get less.
I currently have: for 20 euros/month:
The currently available offers that are close to this are:
Start-1-L
or
Pro-4-S
My main question is: is the C2750 so much better thanks to its 8 threads than the Xeon E3? I only use my server as a web server, so isn't the thread count more important?
Would the unavailability of the C2750 be a good enough reason to move provider?
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•@Hypolite Petovan so yeah - a DB ssrver wants RAM and a webserver wants Threads
These dayz thread numbers are massively important compared to single core performance (this is a rule of thumb, don't take it seriously).
I would pay the €2 for the 16 GB of RAM alone if I was hosting a DBed app like Friendica.
For disks the SSD will likely serve you better than the space, unless your workload is different than I suspect.
Rightsize to workload though
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•@silverwizard This is my current disk usage:
And memory usage:
And my bespoke MariaDB config values:
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@silverwizard This is my current disk usage:
And memory usage:
And my bespoke MariaDB config values:
I'm a little intimidated by the 3 x SSD, I suppose I should enable some kind of RAID but I've never done that before.
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•@silverwizard And yet I've had some hard swapping episodes, like last week. Some Friendica CLI PHP process just takes up all the CPU and the memory for several minutes.
I have very little use for storage, either on this server or anywhere else, so even 1 TB is overkill.
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•@Hypolite Petovan yeah - so that's good, you're not mem stressing (could probably bump buffer if you had more ram)
Is this a dedicated server? If so - yeah - RAID5 or bust, linux softraid wasn't designed by a monste, but it's nowhere near ZFS so I've not used it in years, mdadm is your manpage starting point, but I am out of info. If you are anyway virtualized, don't use RAID
But yeah - threads feel like you're limiter
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•So the plot thickens, for my current server I've been paying:
I remember being skittish about upgrading when I was paying 16€ a month, but the price hike has made it relatively more palatable. Good job price hike!
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