While I am an active critic of distributed privatisation (i.e., #Fediverse as we know it), I will still choose that over corporate privatisation if public service internet is just not a thing yet. Why?
• Corporations under capitalism have but one guiding tenet: the profit motive.
• Social media corporations profit from advertisement operations — especially data harvesting.
• It is their objective, therefore, to maximise profits by maximising data exploitation in every possible way.
Resist.
Mahal [ARCHIVED; CLOSED ACCOUNT]
•Had any of you read the Haugen/Facebook papers, you’d know:
Meta enabled #genocide, boosted polarising misinformation, created shadow profiles of their users, exploited their algorithms so much that it caused mental health issues in young teenagers (there are lawsuits!), sold out women who had abortions to the #police in #USA, did the Cambridge analytica thing, sold user data to thousands of data firms, and more, much more — if you think this corporation has your best interests in mind, idk.
Mahal [ARCHIVED; CLOSED ACCOUNT]
•Everything about Zuckerberg and Meta is evil.
What about #Palestine, for those of you who do support it but also don’t mind Threads?
I was an activist since far before October 7th, so I remember:
Meta systematically — again, *systematically* — blocked, banned, and/or shadowbanned Palestinian pages, individuals, and outlets. Among the popular ones were pages like “Eye On Palestine,” but even average people faced this. This was during the Sheikh Jarrah crisis alone.
LA Legault 🍉 🗳️
•Mahal [ARCHIVED; CLOSED ACCOUNT]
•Meta can filter out pro-Palestine posts though, since they’re running on their own code for their users, so actually, what’ll happen is that we’ll see a greater influx of pro-Israel posts — as is the norm on FB/Insta (unless you deliberately *only* follow pro-Palestine pages who are lucky enough not to get Meta’s ban hammer).
It is the reality of playing on their field — and even if we do block them, we’re still playing on their field; Public Service Media trumps all.
LA Legault 🍉 🗳️
•Mary625 Ceasefire Now ☮️
•I almost always agree with you. In this, I don't. When they're using their fake users, bots, etc their algorithms to push their agenda (money and genocide) into a smaller world, they'll ruin the small world. No two ways about it.
They aren't joining to grow the fediverse. They're joining to grow threads
LA Legault 🍉 🗳️
•Mary625 Ceasefire Now ☮️
•LA Legault 🍉 🗳️
•You are both acting like people have not experienced Meta products before and that’s not why people are on Mastodon.
I stopped using Facebook 10+ years ago. I stopped using Instagram 3 years ago, and I don’t care what Meta says I would never return.
Mary625 Ceasefire Now ☮️
•I was never on Instagram. I can't claim 10 years off Facebook YET LoL. 6 more months.
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I just jumped in to say what I thought about what I was reading here. I don't mean to be telling anyone what they should do
LA Legault 🍉 🗳️
•It just worries me that will people will block millions of people at the drop of a hat because they access social media in a different way than we do.
And it really freaks me out that people will block instances for daring not to defederate with threads immediately, like disagreement is no longer allowed.
Mary625 Ceasefire Now ☮️
•I get that. But I don't see it as blocking users but as blocking the corporation that we know causes harm. Blocking the corp from harming the users, us. We, who use this platform to get away from the harmful corporation. Where do we go?
It's like the big box corps putting all the little mom & pop shops out of business. Like Walmart moving in to the small town and now there's not an IGA or an independent hardware store to be found for miles and miles and miles. Just Walmart
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•sleepfreeparent
•@LALegault @Mary625 if you interact with a threads post, Meta will be harvesting data about you. If you're followed by a threads user, Meta will harvest everything they can about you.
You're asking for evidence that Meta's involvement in the fediverse will be harmful. They've given us that evidence. What is lacking is any evidence that the folks at Meta would do anything less than the maximum harm anyone allows them to do
https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/threads-new-terms-affects-the-fediverse/
@LALegault @Mary625 if you interact with a threads post, Meta will be harvesting data about you. If you're followed by a threads user, Meta will harvest everything they can about you.
You're asking for evidence that Meta's involvement in the fediverse will be harmful. They've given us that evidence. What is lacking is any evidence that the folks at Meta would do anything less than the maximum harm anyone allows them to do
https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/threads-new-terms-affects-the-fediverse/
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