David, Thank you for everything you've done and for giving us time to migrate and access to our data in the meantime. Diasp.org will indescribably missed.
Thank you, David, for providing this online home for so long. Sad to hear it's got to end.
It's a big question what to do next. D* is shrinking. I like Friendica, but it's been really unreliable. Mastodon is restrictive with a lot of features I don't like.
Cheers, @David! It's been a good run, thanks for giving us all a home for so many years. Kinda felt like the Island of Misfit Toys, and I mean that as a compliment 😀 Hoping to find a new D* home, but I'm also on Mastodon, would love to connect with y'all if you're in the neighborhood. Ever onwards! 😀 https://mastodon.social/@7sleepersmusic
Thank you David! Like many others, I came from G+, Pluspora, now Diasp. Nothing lasts forever, though sometimes we may wish it. You've helped create a community that has helped many stay in touch, and connect with each other. No small thing!
What others said. Cannot "like" as I feel like the Google Plus train is rolling over me/us again. Different of course, with personal attention and finances involved. For now, thank you @David
Going forward, a big concern is: What will remain of images tagged/displayed "here"? And of course, how to stay connected to long-time friends/family/acquaintances "here". Diaspora social? Some posts seem to suggest all of diaspora* is going down, but I've not seen that stated (yet?). Anyway, best of luck "here" - where I hope to remain, I guess another pod. 🙁
Be careful with BlueSky, which is not as innocent as a butterfly seems to be. :/ I wanted to try it out, but wasn't thrilled, so I closed and deleted cookies and so on, but there's still a tracker that's impossible to find (and to remove) which parasitizes other logins. Meh...
diaspora-fr is great, but Fla the podmin is all alone to manage, and needs a new server. You can consult the -> Fediverse Observer, where you'll find all the lists of all the instances (diaspora, Mastodon, Friendica, etc). Click on 'List' rather than 'Map', then in 'Software', select the platform. Then in the list, sort by column. In short, poke around...
• To save your data and photos, go to : profile / settings / export (at the very bottom). These are .json.gz files. • To my knowledge, we can't yet transfer contacts from one pod to another
Be careful with BlueSky, which is not as innocent as a butterfly seems to be. :/ I wanted to try it out, but wasn't thrilled, so I closed and deleted cookies and so on, but there's still a tracker that's impossible to find (and to remove) which parasitizes other logins. Meh...
diaspora-fr is great, but Fla the podmin is all alone to manage, and needs a new server. You can consult the -> Fediverse Observer, where you'll find all the lists of all the instances (diaspora, Mastodon, Friendica, etc). Click on 'List' rather than 'Map', then in 'Software', select the platform. Then in the list, sort by column. In short, poke around...
• To save your data and photos, go to : profile / settings / export (at the very bottom). These are .json.gz files. • To my knowledge, we can't yet transfer contacts from one pod to another... Here's my home-made trick : on the Contacts page, go to 'My contacts' (not 'all' my contacts) ; with the mouse button held down, select by highlighting the whole list ; release the button, copy (ctrl C), then open a word processor and paste (ctrl V). Save. It's not ideal, but you'll have a record of your contacts with their URLs, so they'll be easier to find. Hope this can help...
Thanks to all podmins for allowing us to express ourselves on a free network ; and don't forget to help them in turn with a small donation - they deserve it. ;)
Came here from joindiaspora, in the early days 😀 David's post gives a lot of did for thought about Diaspora and the Fediverse. All I know is that I will always remain in the fediverse, or whatever project embodied the ideals of free, decentralized and cooperative social networking. I'm also on Mastodon and Mbin, I'll post links to those in my stream later. As for Diaspora, I don't want to choose a pod lightly. I'm going to do some research, starting by: https://www.geekpedia.com/building-a-linux-server-a-comprehensive-step-by-step-guide/ Although I'll most likely join someone else's server. Still, this has taught me I want to learn more about hosting. See you all around
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I began at diasp.net, just a little over ten years ago. That pod no longer is. I got accounts on other pods, including diasp.org, initially for federation purposes but when diasp.net disappeared I moved. Fingers crossed that diasp.eu, where I have my "@present main account" now, will stay up for a bit longer. /♇ ✱ [phle]
I intend to retire my diasp.org account on St. David's Day, March 1st. That seems appropriate as a tribute to David and everything that has been shared here.
<br />Hello John
We’ve encountered an issue while processing your personal data for download. If this issue persists, please contact your podmin for help.
Sorry,
The diaspora* email robot!
Those of you who've got Bluesky accounts, but still want to keep in contact with the Fediverse: Consider using the "Bridgy Fed" how-to: https://fed.brid.gy/docs
Thanks, buddy. I'm still figuring out the move. I was thinking of hopping over to Friendica and resetting things up there, because it seems most connected... does anyone have any tips?
@zulu I'm on diasp.eu now, but "began" at diasp.net (which crashed). I had federation/back-up accounts on JoinDiaspora (closed), diasp.de (closed), and on diasp.org (about to close), and when finally deciding to get rid of my Twitter & Facebook accounts earlier this year, I got myself some new back-up accounts:
I'm on friendica.world (this account, @phle; because it was the first server in the list described with a language I feel comfortable with, and also "non-niched", at the time of my sign-up), and on mastodon.nu (an instance located in Sweden; I'm @phle there; [link to list of mastodon
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@zulu I'm on diasp.eu now, but "began" at diasp.net (which crashed). I had federation/back-up accounts on JoinDiaspora (closed), diasp.de (closed), and on diasp.org (about to close), and when finally deciding to get rid of my Twitter & Facebook accounts earlier this year, I got myself some new back-up accounts:
I'm on friendica.world (this account, @phle; because it was the first server in the list described with a language I feel comfortable with, and also "non-niched", at the time of my sign-up), and on mastodon.nu (an instance located in Sweden; I'm @phle there; [link to list of mastodon servers], [unofficial guide to Mastodon]).
For my purposes, Friendica federates better (for me), as it federates in both directions to both diaspora* and mastodon, while mastodon isn't connected to diaspora*. Both Friendica and Mastodon can connect to Bluesky, by the help of the "bridge".
Slight warning: Friendica has a learning curve. It took a while to "get it". To fine-tune all the settings. And you'll need to find the stuff you want to fill your stream with. But yeah, you too have been on diaspora* for quite a bit. It's easy to forget that our diaspora* stream was empty at first. Patience. It pays. Welcome to the extended Fediverse!
In the spirit of 'keeping it simple', I'd mention that it's super easy and quick to "just join another pod", cut and paste your description if desired, and use this time to (re) add existing/long-time contacts from the new pod, maybe also 'signal flare' to usual hangouts, and (remember?) look for the "new here" post.
I'd say 75% or more of my (smallish) diaspora* regulars are already migrated to d.social or glasswings or whatever... No muss, no fuss really, though we can always try/add new platforms and connecting apps/sites. But just to avoid the annoyance of making a whole new move (like after Google + and some pods 'here') it's really easy, and there's still time (thanks for the long lead, @David)
I too think Bluesky is great, and is what it is - short form and with some big, mostly one-way celebs and organizations, but also easy to use and to connect with real people with similar interests. But it's not replacing this comfy living room (pora*), only another channel. Guess I'm old school (but also a social scientist!) Choices!
@Michael Fenichel Yes, this (staying in the diaspora* sphere) is definitely the best solution - no learning curve, just the moving (not both!).
For me, it was also part of trying to "lure people to leave Facebook", of which the "event" function was the most important. (Friendica has a calendar function, but it's not as slick as the Facebook one. It exists, though.) I'm unsure of whether others actually left, but I did get some of them interested in adding alternatives to their repertoire.
Oh, and the #NewHere (and #OldHere; #introduction as well) - those were great: I would have felt very lonely without them when I first arrived here.
I actually happened to dive into my diaspora* DM box, where I had a conversation with
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@Michael Fenichel Yes, this (staying in the diaspora* sphere) is definitely the best solution - no learning curve, just the moving (not both!).
For me, it was also part of trying to "lure people to leave Facebook", of which the "event" function was the most important. (Friendica has a calendar function, but it's not as slick as the Facebook one. It exists, though.) I'm unsure of whether others actually left, but I did get some of them interested in adding alternatives to their repertoire.
Oh, and the #NewHere (and #OldHere; #introduction as well) - those were great: I would have felt very lonely without them when I first arrived here.
I actually happened to dive into my diaspora* DM box, where I had a conversation with palantir (no longer active - account gone). They suggested a (one-time) follow-up function, some time after sign-up: basically just an automated e-mail checking that things were running smooth, and with a "how to"/"frequently asked questions" section added. A kind of "catch those who post once (maybe without tags), get no responses, has an empty Stream, and then never logs in again".
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•Thank you for keeping diasp.org going for 15 years, David -- that's a long time!
Do people have suggestions for good alternatives?
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•Many of us from here are already on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/
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•I guess ActivityPub wins the Fediverse, see folks over on Mastodon..
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•Thank you, David, for providing this online home for so long. Sad to hear it's got to end.
It's a big question what to do next. D* is shrinking. I like Friendica, but it's been really unreliable. Mastodon is restrictive with a lot of features I don't like.
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•David
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•What others said. Cannot "like" as I feel like the Google Plus train is rolling over me/us again.
Different of course, with personal attention and finances involved. For now, thank you @David
Going forward, a big concern is: What will remain of images tagged/displayed "here"? And of course, how to stay connected to long-time friends/family/acquaintances "here". Diaspora social? Some posts seem to suggest all of diaspora* is going down, but I've not seen that stated (yet?). Anyway, best of luck "here" - where I hope to remain, I guess another pod. 🙁
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•I call that pod-hopping (or timewarping)
one of the charmes of the idea of decentralisation
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•@Adam Hunt : "Bluesky"
Be careful with BlueSky, which is not as innocent as a butterfly seems to be. :/
I wanted to try it out, but wasn't thrilled, so I closed and deleted cookies and so on, but there's still a tracker that's impossible to find (and to remove) which parasitizes other logins. Meh...
diaspora-fr is great, but Fla the podmin is all alone to manage, and needs a new server.
You can consult the -> Fediverse Observer, where you'll find all the lists of all the instances (diaspora, Mastodon, Friendica, etc). Click on 'List' rather than 'Map', then in 'Software', select the platform. Then in the list, sort by column. In short, poke around...
• To save your data and photos, go to : profile / settings / export (at the very bottom). These are .json.gz files.
... show more• To my knowledge, we can't yet transfer contacts from one pod to another
@Adam Hunt : "Bluesky"
Be careful with BlueSky, which is not as innocent as a butterfly seems to be. :/
I wanted to try it out, but wasn't thrilled, so I closed and deleted cookies and so on, but there's still a tracker that's impossible to find (and to remove) which parasitizes other logins. Meh...
diaspora-fr is great, but Fla the podmin is all alone to manage, and needs a new server.
You can consult the -> Fediverse Observer, where you'll find all the lists of all the instances (diaspora, Mastodon, Friendica, etc). Click on 'List' rather than 'Map', then in 'Software', select the platform. Then in the list, sort by column. In short, poke around...
• To save your data and photos, go to : profile / settings / export (at the very bottom). These are .json.gz files.
• To my knowledge, we can't yet transfer contacts from one pod to another... Here's my home-made trick : on the Contacts page, go to 'My contacts' (not 'all' my contacts) ; with the mouse button held down, select by highlighting the whole list ; release the button, copy (ctrl C), then open a word processor and paste (ctrl V). Save.
It's not ideal, but you'll have a record of your contacts with their URLs, so they'll be easier to find.
Hope this can help...
Thanks to all podmins for allowing us to express ourselves on a free network ; and don't forget to help them in turn with a small donation - they deserve it. ;)
Fediverse Observer checks all servers in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home using a map or list.
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•David's post gives a lot of did for thought about Diaspora and the Fediverse. All I know is that I will always remain in the fediverse, or whatever project embodied the ideals of free, decentralized and cooperative social networking.
I'm also on Mastodon and Mbin, I'll post links to those in my stream later.
As for Diaspora, I don't want to choose a pod lightly. I'm going to do some research, starting by:
https://www.geekpedia.com/building-a-linux-server-a-comprehensive-step-by-step-guide/
Although I'll most likely join someone else's server. Still, this has taught me I want to learn more about hosting.
See you all around
Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Linux Server for Beginners
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phle@diasp.org → pl@diasp.eu
•Thank you for this time!
I began at diasp.net, just a little over ten years ago. That pod no longer is.
I got accounts on other pods, including diasp.org, initially for federation purposes but when diasp.net disappeared I moved.
Fingers crossed that diasp.eu, where I have my "@present main account" now, will stay up for a bit longer. /♇ ✱ [phle]
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•This was my first account on the fediverse, and I'll recall it fondly for that.
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•Adam Hunt
•Not surprising. There are outstanding bugs.
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♇ ✱ [phle]
•Those of you who've got Bluesky accounts, but still want to keep in contact with the Fediverse: Consider using the "Bridgy Fed"
how-to: https://fed.brid.gy/docs
#NotMyWork #Federation #Bluesky
Bridgy Fed
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phle
•@zulu I'm on diasp.eu now, but "began" at
diasp.net(which crashed).I had federation/back-up accounts on
JoinDiaspora(closed),diasp.de(closed), and on diasp.org (about to close),and when finally deciding to get rid of my Twitter & Facebook accounts earlier this year, I got myself some new back-up accounts:
I'm on friendica.world (this account, @phle; because it was the first server in the list described with a language I feel comfortable with, and also "non-niched", at the time of my sign-up),
... show moreand on mastodon.nu (an instance located in Sweden; I'm @phle there; [link to list of mastodon
@zulu I'm on diasp.eu now, but "began" at
diasp.net(which crashed).I had federation/back-up accounts on
JoinDiaspora(closed),diasp.de(closed), and on diasp.org (about to close),and when finally deciding to get rid of my Twitter & Facebook accounts earlier this year, I got myself some new back-up accounts:
I'm on friendica.world (this account, @phle; because it was the first server in the list described with a language I feel comfortable with, and also "non-niched", at the time of my sign-up),
and on mastodon.nu (an instance located in Sweden; I'm @phle there; [link to list of mastodon servers], [unofficial guide to Mastodon]).
For my purposes, Friendica federates better (for me), as it federates in both directions to both diaspora* and mastodon,
while mastodon isn't connected to diaspora*.
Both Friendica and Mastodon can connect to Bluesky, by the help of the "bridge".
Slight warning: Friendica has a learning curve. It took a while to "get it". To fine-tune all the settings. And you'll need to find the stuff you want to fill your stream with.
But yeah, you too have been on diaspora* for quite a bit. It's easy to forget that our diaspora* stream was empty at first.
Patience. It pays. Welcome to the extended Fediverse!
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zulu
•Michael Fenichel
•In the spirit of 'keeping it simple', I'd mention that it's super easy and quick to "just join another pod", cut and paste your description if desired, and use this time to (re) add existing/long-time contacts from the new pod, maybe also 'signal flare' to usual hangouts, and (remember?) look for the "new here" post.
I'd say 75% or more of my (smallish) diaspora* regulars are already migrated to d.social or glasswings or whatever... No muss, no fuss really, though we can always try/add new platforms and connecting apps/sites. But just to avoid the annoyance of making a whole new move (like after Google + and some pods 'here') it's really easy, and there's still time (thanks for the long lead, @David)
I too think Bluesky is great, and is what it is - short form and with some big, mostly one-way celebs and organizations, but also easy to use and to connect with real people with similar interests. But it's not replacing this comfy living room (pora*), only another channel. Guess I'm old school (but also a social scientist!) Choices!
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•@Michael Fenichel Yes, this (staying in the diaspora* sphere) is definitely the best solution - no learning curve, just the moving (not both!).
For me, it was also part of trying to "lure people to leave Facebook", of which the "event" function was the most important. (Friendica has a calendar function, but it's not as slick as the Facebook one. It exists, though.)
I'm unsure of whether others actually left, but I did get some of them interested in adding alternatives to their repertoire.
Oh, and the #NewHere (and #OldHere; #introduction as well) - those were great: I would have felt very lonely without them when I first arrived here.
I actually happened to dive into my diaspora* DM box, where I had a conversation with
... show more@Michael Fenichel Yes, this (staying in the diaspora* sphere) is definitely the best solution - no learning curve, just the moving (not both!).
For me, it was also part of trying to "lure people to leave Facebook", of which the "event" function was the most important. (Friendica has a calendar function, but it's not as slick as the Facebook one. It exists, though.)
I'm unsure of whether others actually left, but I did get some of them interested in adding alternatives to their repertoire.
Oh, and the #NewHere (and #OldHere; #introduction as well) - those were great: I would have felt very lonely without them when I first arrived here.
I actually happened to dive into my diaspora* DM box, where I had a conversation with palantir (no longer active - account gone). They suggested a (one-time) follow-up function, some time after sign-up: basically just an automated e-mail checking that things were running smooth, and with a "how to"/"frequently asked questions" section added.
A kind of "catch those who post once (maybe without tags), get no responses, has an empty Stream, and then never logs in again".
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