Btw for the love of god if you're trying to get your friends to come to the #fediverse please just stop giving them links to the "join-x" sites and just give them an invite link from your server or a link to the register page from the one you use (or think is reasonably stable for a new user).

On Mastodon doing that means they'll start with at least one person followed, not sure about on the #threadiverse or if either of the software even have invite codes.

I think the difficulties of federation are somewhat overblown in general, but one thing is for sure: it's not a hoop most people really *want* to jump through first. Just give them a way to explore, and let help them figure it out themselves once they're on.

The "join" sites are an attempt to mimic a pattern of centralized sites that just doesn't work here. They're unlikely to ever really work.