Kicking Erwin Schrödinger out of my idols. Not because he chose a cat for his thought experiment, but because of one thing I learnt: he sexually abused children and kept a diary about it. 🤮 Src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger#Sexual_abuse
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Maltimore
•Coralie Renée
•What?
F... 🤮
How did you learn it?
David Revoy
•https://framapiaf.org/deck/@etcetera@c.im/111470362386014100 , I then told them in PM about my intention to relay the info not as a boost, but with a cartoon. The reason: I had a scenario for a future episode in draft with a big reference to Schrödinger's cat experiment. I immediately put it to trash without regret.
Coralie Renée
•@etcetera
I really love your ethic David.
(J'irais le lire).
Coralie Renée
•@etcetera
C'est effectivement à vomir !
On l'a jamais inculpé ?
David Revoy
•Ray Of Sunlight
•TomTooM
•David Revoy
•« Erwin Schrödinger » : historique des versions — Wikipédia
fr.wikipedia.orgLes capsules du prof Lutz
•eh, thanks for ruining my otherwise perfect Sunday 😕
Geez, this passage from Wikipedia is disgusting:
he stated a "predilection for teenage girls on the grounds that their innocence was the ideal match for his natural genius"
David Revoy
•@lutzray Yes, disguting. I learnt it yesterday and then I couldn't believe most of the biography I read or portrait on video put that big part of his life to silence. Even the French Wikipedia page doesn't mention it ...
Btw, sorry for the bad 'sunday timing'. I couldn't hold this info I learnt yesterday evening, I had to make a a drawing about it to reflect about it. Schrödinger cat box is so pop culture. I saw it on so many meme...
Les capsules du prof Lutz
•it's just one more name on the list of famous physicists who didn't know what to do with their dick...
https://www.natgeotv.com/za/special/genius-albert-einsteins-theory-of-infidelity
https://thebaffler.com/outbursts/surely-youre-a-creep-mr-feynman-mcneill
Does celebrity induce sexual predatory behaviours? And is it specifically 'male'? (I doubt it).
Sadly, I won't ever know the answer 😏 I'm too old to become famous.
GENIUS ALBERT EINSTEIN'S THEORY OF INFIDELITY
www.natgeotv.comRicardo
•Erwin Ernst eest9 Steinhammer
•Oof, this makes being named after him a rather grim topic from now on :c
[Edited because I got too many replies]
David Revoy
•@eest9 Oh no, I'm sorry for you. 😔
I don't think that information was publicly available until quite recently. I watch a lot of science videos and I've never heard of this.
A friend recently told me something about this kind of thing: when a band, a personality, a character has this thing, it's a new death for them. You were named when the clean and brilliant reputation was still alive and only info available. I hope you'll be able to keep the positive aspect of this name.
Erwin Ernst eest9 Steinhammer
•I hope so. I'll probably tell the origin story of my name far less in the future and exclusively with a note in regard to this.
Yes, it looks like the oldest mention is a biography from 1990, and it wasn't widely recognized until 2021, when more information about it came public?
David Revoy
•I don't know. Pages like the French one on Wikipedia doesn't even mention it...
[edit: Someone added the info to the FR wikipedia page 10min ago, thanks! https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger&action=history 👍 ]
« Erwin Schrödinger » : historique des versions — Wikipédia
fr.wikipedia.orgPierre
•Pepper1700 :veritrek_gold:
•David Revoy
•xpac
•https://archive.is/Q06rJ
Piggo :verified_horse:
•12ft
12ft.ioDavid Revoy
•@piggo Thank you for this tool. First time I met it. I'll keep it on my bookmarks. Also, I received thanks to other another cool option: the 'Internet Archives' method when the article wasn't behind a paywall I guess. Cool method, I'll also try to remember that.
@jrod3737
Carl Schwan :kde:
•petition by French intellectuals to legalize pedophilia
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)David Revoy
•Carl Schwan :kde:
•David Revoy
•David Revoy
•Ici, j'avais un scénario en cours très "Schrödinger-centric" avec Pepper qui demandais à Carrot d'inviter ses potes pour faire une expérience avec boites, potion et marteau. Poubelle.
David Revoy
•I grief I'll not enjoy all of this in the same way now.
Schroedinger
•I should point out that my username is mainly a reference to the famous thought experiment.
I am not ignoring or condoning his abuse.
Ivan Sagalaev :flag_wbw:
•Mathieu Lam Son Leocmach
•Codrus 🇺🇲
•Stemy
•David Revoy
•Weyoun 6
•Gen X-Wing
•If you go dig just a tiny bit there’s an awful lot of terrible things to find about a lot now dead famous people.
Several famous authors had terrible sides, as well as scientists. The movie industry is completely filled with horrors.
Not saying your reaction is wrong, quite the opposite. Just saying it’s sadly pretty easy. 🙁
(I think you would make a pretty good political cartoonist. But I quite enjoy your work in general.)
Stemy
•David Revoy
•Lamecarlate
•David Revoy
•@lamecarlate Oh yes, difficult to follow this motto that I understand perfectly!
(But then my brain starts exception for Pratchett, Bowie, Toriyama, Loomis, Tsukasa Hojo, etc... etc... 😆)
Henrý Ólson
•Filip 🌱 🦀
•Patrick Johanneson 🚀
•wait what
Jebus wept.
Scott Carlson
•David Revoy
•thought experiment devised by the physicist Erwin Schrödinger about quantum superposition of macroscopic states, e.g. between a live cat and a dead cat
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•David Revoy
•eribosot
•David Revoy
•English sculptor, typeface designer, and printmaker (1882-1940)
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•David Revoy
•Match
•maxmoon 🌱
•"predilection for teenage girls on the grounds that their innocence was the ideal match for his natural genius"
This is the most disgusting diary entry I've ever read *puke*
Nicole Parsons
•@jrod3737
You can access most paywalled material if you have a library card.
Mine uses PressReader.
AnotherNewbie
•AnotherNewbie
•Nicole Parsons
•One of the relatively unacknowledged risks to public health is the sexual abuse of children.
So much evidence of societal trauma exists, yet it is ignored as a public health issue.
South Korean & Japanese women so traumatized by the rampant misogyny of their cultures, that the birth rate had plummeted.
Male supremacy has economic consequences
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/south-korea-fertility-rate-misogyny-feminism/673435/
New Zealand evidence that child victims of sexual abuse have reduced life expectancy of 10 to 20 years less
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The Real Reason South Koreans Aren’t Having Babies
Anna Louie Sussman (The Atlantic)Nicole Parsons
•Residential schools & child sexual abuse in New Zealand, Australia, UK, & Canada
https://www.news.library.auckland.ac.nz/2017/10/06/native-schools/
https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2017/quite-genocide/index.html
Irish & Italian Catholic abuse that triggered a diaspora of immigrants & rates of alcoholism
https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ps.53.8.1001
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/11/pressure-on-italy-catholic-church-face-child-sexual-abuse-reckoning
American churches hiding massive sexual abuse scandals (Catholic, Baptist, Mormon, Jewish, Jehovah Witness, Sikh, etc) and an onslaught of gun violence & suicidal behavior.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/illinois-catholic-church-child-abuse-rcna86289
Rampant child sexual abuse is occurring in churches — not at drag shows
Ja'han Jones (MSNBC)David Revoy
•Valentin Petzel
•Aral Balkan
•@jrod3737 Here you go: https://web.archive.org/web/20230430001350/https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/how-erwin-schrodinger-indulged-his-lolita-complex-in-ireland-1.4749204
(I’m a subscriber so consider this a gift link – they really should do gift links.)
How Erwin Schrödinger indulged his ‘Lolita complex’ in Ireland
Joe Humphreys (The Irish Times)Alien
•David Revoy
•DarekPages
•astralaegis
•David Revoy
•@astralaegis Same.
(And TIL for "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkshake_Duck" expression. Thank you, very interesting to know it.)
Internet meme describing phenomena that go from being seen as positive to deeply flawed
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•ammoniumperchlorate
•David Revoy
•La partie à jeter: les salles d'amphis à son nom, ou de l'éloges posthumes.
Le côté "Chat de Schrödinger" expérience de pensé provocante et marquante restera sans doute dans la pop-culture longtemps...
www-gem
•David Revoy
•@libroraptor Yes, at least his paragraph on Wikipedia is well detailed for whomever wants to get the info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Gill#Sexual_abuse .
I just hope poeple will check this before praising the historical figures, to not make more statues or more golden letters to them. The knowledge is now public and sourced.
English sculptor, typeface designer, and printmaker (1882-1940)
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)🐙 Compañero Allende 🇵🇸
•oh. wow.
and also wtf!
@hosford42
#Sexual_abuse #schrodinger #quantum #physics
gmoke
•NoctisEqui 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇪🇹🏳️🌈
•SteveBologna
•Greengordon
•Sounds like narcissism. It's pathological, incurable, and should be tested for.
"Schrödinger kept a record of his sexual liaisons including children he sexually abused in a diary he called Ephemeridae, in which he stated a "predilection for teenage girls on the grounds that their innocence was the ideal match for his natural genius".
midor
•fluffy 💜
•Lars Wirzenius
•I am, again, reassured that my conviction to not have heroes, is justified.
I can respect specific things people do, but I don't assume that means they're good people. More weakly, I don't even assume they've not done bad things.
noodlejetski :verified_gay:
•@piggo @jrod3737 sadly, 12ft isn't as effective as it used to be, and more often than not it won't unlock articles anymore :/
I've seen https://1ft.io/ being used here and there.
1ft – One Step Beyond the Paywall
1ft.ioEsmo Ciredutemps
•andrei!
•WTF
Schrödinger kept a record of his sexual liaisons including children he sexually abused in a diary he called Ephemeridae, in which he stated a "predilection for teenage girls on the grounds that their innocence was the ideal match for his natural genius".
👣 Maïtané :empoleon:
•Le Monolecte 😷🤬🐧 :oc:
•David Revoy
•I already had two feedback in PM about this, I discussed and, yes, sorry, I feel a CW would have been appropriate to not be exposed by this topic.
I'm learning.
At the same time, the content I put here is minimal, similar to what the title of the CW would have been. The link is the real content, and require action.
David Revoy
•Enthalpiste
•David Revoy
•@Bibobu Yes, an edit that happened after I published this post. ( src: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger&action=history ) and it is a good thing. Thanks to the Wikipedian user who did this update and probably keep an eye on the comments here! 💜
(also, yay, French page mention it https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger#Abus_sexuels )
@jrod3737
physicien et théoricien scientifique autrichien
Contributeurs aux projets Wikimedia (Fondation Wikimedia, Inc.)Bins :debian: :linux:
•Somehow, that disgusting part of his life was never mentioned in the numerous lectures about his life's achievements. (And I went pretty far in physics academia.)
It's really shocking.
Hope that with more reckoning, naming and shaming, these atrocities will end.
LotharMucki 🦄
•Ela
•Ian Welsh
•Sonja Lemke
•Peaceful Assembly Robot
•Also, the cat thought experiment is dumb, because you can't actually shield a box from things like gravity.
If you did, you could essentially never open it back up -- it would be a new universe.
Anyway, art, artist. Humans can be terrible (and in this case, clearly was,) so I prefer the ideas which can have their own life!
xro
•#Sexual_abuse #schrodinger #quantum #physics
https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000132657725/erwin-schroedinger-missbrauchstaeter-undoder-rufmordopfer
Wikipedia verlinkt als Quelle obigen Artikel, der wesentliche Differenziertes sagt als die Wikipedia. Das sagt zumindest mal nix gutes über die Artikelqualität der WP 😑 wenn man eine Quelle so "zusammenfasst" und dabei zum gegenteiligen Schluss kommt.
Unabhängig davon sind die Vorwürfe, dazu weiß ich nix 🤷, aber Zweifel dürften mir aktuell noch angebracht sein.
Lesen lohnt sich jedenfalls.
Erwin Schrödinger: Missbrauchstäter oder Rufmordopfer?
DER STANDARDxro
•#Sexual_abuse #schrodinger #quantum #physics
In short, if you read the article from DerStandard, it sounds to me very much like Schrödinger knew exactly where to draw the line, skirted close but never crossed it.
Very different from how wikipedia summarizes the article.
David Revoy
•Also, according to the paragraph on Wikipedia, he crossed the line big time with disastrous outcomes.
Erwin Ernst eest9 Steinhammer
•CryptPad
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•David Revoy
•Ferdinando Santacroce
•Harald 哈拉德
•Schrödingers verlorene Ehre – und ein Versuch ihrer Wiederherstellung
DER STANDARDDavid Revoy
•Harald 哈拉德
•David Revoy
•Because you just dropped a link, I thought you wanted to add a source to the article, but you didn't know how to do it. So I tried to guide you to the right part of Wikipedia to do so.
Harald 哈拉德
•Aha - ok, that's good. I will look ...
And thank you!
Harald 哈拉德
•David Bradley
•pm2000
•pm2000
•David Revoy
•@pm2000 Fortunately, logo like that are still pretty neutral as long as there is no bottle of poison and hammer (the element of the experiment of thought that does reference) just a cat in a box is not a direct reference.
In the comments here, some proposed to just use the name "Quantum cat" instead of naming it "Schrödinger cat", this way it avoids to send too much praising while keeping the pop culture element.
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