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This morning nine.testrun.org was briefly unavailable, some network problem. A good time to remind everyone to add a second relay to your #deltachat app:

1. Go to https://chatmail.at/relays randomly choose one of the listed relay pages and copy the invitation code to your clipboard

2. In delta chat settings go to advanced/relays and tap "add relay" and paste the invitation code

3. That's it.

If one relay is unavailable you still can receive and send messages.
https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#maximizing-availability-and-resilience-through-multi-path-delivery


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Hypolite Petovan
Hypolite Petovan  
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@Delta Chat So now I have to rely on not one, but two separate third-party entities when I only had to have to have an email address to use Delta Chat before?

What kind of nonsense did you get into to go down that absolutely tortured path?

@Delta Chat
Delta Chat
Delta Chat  
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@hypolite You can use your own mailbox on a non-chatmail server if you want. If you are sure it works reliably all the time, you also don't need multiple mailboxes. You can also add chatmail mailboxes next to non-chatmail ones if you want to have things working when your server is down but chatmail relay you added works.
@Hypolite Petovan
Hypolite Petovan
Hypolite Petovan  
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@Delta Chat Unfortunately, the fact I don't understand your reply nor even how it pertains to my complaint says a lot about the lost affordance of the service you used to provide.

I hope you know where you're going because it will be without me.

@Delta Chat
Hypolite Petovan
Hypolite Petovan  
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@utopiArte @Delta Chat I assume the answer would be "the latest version" since they introduced end-to-end encryption in the later versions and it would considered the "safest". In a way, with E2EE you theoretically don't have to trust relays that only pass around encrypted messages.

Compare to the early days of Delta Chat where nothing was "safe" since it only relied on plain text emails to my knowledge. Of course I don't expect anybody to have been using Delta Chat for cryptographically sensitive conversation either, so I really don't know where this push came from.

@Delta Chat @utopiArte
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Hypolite Petovan
Hypolite Petovan  
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@Benjamin Kwiecień 🇵🇸 This is inaccurate. Part of why I'm so involved in the recent changes in that software is that I received a Delta Chat notification that the "Move automatically to DeltaChat Folder" option was being removed. It was a big part of the quality of life of using Delta Chat with an existing email address and it's a use case that is being explicitly abandoned by Delta Chat.
@Benjamin Kwiecień 🇵🇸
Benjamin Kwiecień 🇵🇸
Benjamin Kwiecień 🇵🇸  
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Delta Chat can do things that people may not necessarily need or want, but just because it can do them doesn't mean it must do them. Don't want relays? Don't add them. Don't want to use this or that server? Don't. The original functionality didn't go anywhere. 🤔
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Delta Chat
Delta Chat  
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@utopiarte @hypolite there is no older safe version that will continue to work forever, sorry. You would need to find a few folks who go for forking and developing things in a different direction, and then use their work.
@Hypolite Petovan @utopiArte
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