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@Hypolite Petovan I comment on a thread and don't see the comments on the original post.
@Hypolite Petovan remotely it looks like this:
https://chaos.social/@afelia/109570359511209184

Locally only my reply is visible.

In the past I commented on the post and soon many replies would come in.
@utzer ~Friendica~ We haven't changed anything in this regard. The only thread completion that we were doing and still are is the direct ascendency thread. The reception of replies on conversations you interacted with from people you do not follow depends entirely on remote systems.

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@Hypolite Petovan so that means
a) Mastodon changed something to the worse.
or
b) it is a misconception caused by the growing number of accounts which causes more frequent cases were the local thread is not present, but just the main post or a comment and hence the main post.
@utzer ~Friendica~ On the original thread, many answers are posted "unlisted". Possibly these are the ones that are missing.
@Hamiller Friendica@utzer ~Friendica~

I think, mastodonies tend to answer unlisted, because they get annoyed about every comment gets boosted...

And they do not realize, they are missing parts of threads they are in...

Had this discussion in my friendica-groups, because mastodonies are annoyed getting updates on every single answer...

Mastodon is annoying.

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@๐—๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ผ๐—ฏ :๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ: ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น โœ… ahh
c) Mastodon users break the capability of the Fediverse by posting unlisted.

I wonder if unlisted must be treated as "do not load the whole thread from remote"... I guess, I assume that is the whole intention.

So I always have to remember to manually go to remote, look at the thread, copy and search for the interesting remote replies to be able to reply to those or reference to those replies?

This feels strange. Really.

So the original post gets lots of double replies because of different users giving the same reply multiple times.

@Hamiller Friendica
@Peter Vรกgner
How i understood federation, messages are not fetched, they are delivered.

So... if a message on mastodon ist "not listed", is it delivered or not? That's the question, i think.

@utzer [Friendica]@Hamiller Friendica
@utzer [Friendica]@Peter Vรกgner@Hamiller Friendica

Friendica fetched missing messages? Really?

I thought, @Michael Vogel thought about a possibility, to fetch them... but it is not realized till now.

Maybe it fetches frirndica-threads via dfrn-protocol... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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We are doing so for many years.
That's what I thought of.
@Michael Vogel I remember commenting on a post and then after 1 minute lots of replies showed up, so after my interaction that happened. I miss this behavior.
It is really annoying to have all these incomplete threads.
@utzer [Friendica] I seem to have found a conversation where thread completion didnโ€™t occur when it should have. Fetching the missing public posts manually gives โ€œNo resultsโ€, I have to look into it.

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