On Post, @kathygriffin challenges Noam about Andreessen and he starts backing away (see screenshot). To which Kathy responded:
"Please don’t try to gaslight anyone on Marc Andreessen, of all people.
"Please understand that real world people had no clue about who Elon Musk and Peter Theil were, much less the destruction we didn’t catch in time. You didn’t HAVE to go to AH. You could’ve self funded."
"Please don’t try to gaslight anyone on Marc Andreessen, of all people.
"Please understand that real world people had no clue about who Elon Musk and Peter Theil were, much less the destruction we didn’t catch in time. You didn’t HAVE to go to AH. You could’ve self funded."
Michele :ablobderpy:
•Tim Bray
•I haven't seen one, probably because nobody has ever had a financial incentive to construct it.
Mastodon would be a good place to try to make one.
Evan Prodromou
•We could optimize for better connections with the people you care about.
For a richer and more fulfilling life.
Jeff Jarvis
•blaine
•The key thing is that *anyone* here can be in control of the algorithm that affects them. We aren't ever again going to be bound by the whims and anxieties of a bunch of guys looking to make a dollar.
(We do all have to hold ourselves accountable, which is liberating and terrifying, of course!)
debs
•I’ve been dreaming of an app that is built on “interestingness” and “connection”. I assume 90% of us are using Metatext or Mastodon app.
Evan Prodromou
•debs
•And also “rewarding” connective behaviors - by using that as a metric vs “followers”
Kevin Marks
•Evan Prodromou
•Kevin Marks
•Cafe Calaca
FoursquareAris Teon
•Evan Prodromou
•Just because these tools are used for engagement and ad clicks on other social networks doesn't mean we need to use them for that purpose here.
Our social tools should serve our own social needs.
I *don't* need controversy or outrage in my life.
I *do* need connection, deep relationships, and community interaction.
If the tools serve *our* purposes, and are under *our* control, why wouldn't we use them?
Aris Teon
•Aris Teon
•Evan Prodromou
•Aris Teon
•scottbw 🐧 🇬🇧🇩🇪
•Aris Teon
•Anyway, my argument is about changes that affect everyone, such as instances or popular apps like Mastodon doing it. Few people will build their own apps, so that is not relevant for most users.
scottbw 🐧 🇬🇧🇩🇪
•Aris Teon
•Chronological timelines have worked on FB, Twitter and here. If that changes, people can draw their own conclusions. I will move somewhere else.
Evan Prodromou
•We have a many different server software implementations;
Many different clients for those servers;
Many instances with different patches and configuration options;
Many, many user accounts with different user settings.
Evan Prodromou
•If it were to happen, you would be able to change user settings, client software, instance, or server software without losing access to your social graph or data.
Noone can force any kind of algorithm on you in this network. Not even the Mastodon dev team!
Can we put please this topic to rest?
Aris Teon
•And changing settings doesn't work. You can't have a chronological timeline once you follow ppl that have a nonchronological timeline. Just like Twitter didn't really have a chronological timeline anymore.
Tim Chambers - VOTED
•And the default should be just "chronological" in my book.
Evan Prodromou
•danbri
•Arp Laszlo • Comics • ADHD
•Rather than shooting for a ‘better’ algorithm, we - and society as a whole - are better off connecting with people in greater depth.
Mark Gardner
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