Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
Human rights mean a lot to me. I joined the Fediverse to make the world a nicer place. My efforts are pathetically small, but hopefully make at least a tiny difference.
I used to recommend Lemmy very strongly, thought the people who develop it were nice folks interested in making the world better too.
However, recent discussions with the developers has changed my mind completely.
lol. just because someone believes something different about the past than official mainstream stories doesn't mean they support oppression.
Remember: the winner writes the history.
I fully support lemmy.ml's open-mindedness and ability/willingness to allow free debate about policial topics. For this exact reason I might actually consider contributing. Thanks for the good news (even though you presented it a bit differently).
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
Lemmy's developers say "we are strictly against all forms of oppression (including genocide), and dont allow anything that promotes or supports oppression" and "We definitely are very staunchly against bigotry or persecution of minorities, and are strict about banning that".
This is difficult to fully reconcile with what actually happens on the developers' own instance, and those they feature.
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
The problem here isn't Lemmy's politics, but their attitude to threads about human rights violations.
On the face of it, the developers' main Lemmy instance has lots of uncontroversial general interest threads, but when you start digging on controversial topics a worrying pattern emerges.
The worrying posts are very reminiscent of the way certain churches have handled priest abuse claims: denial.
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Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
You get the picture.
These posts were on the main Lemmy instance, as featured on the official Lemmy website.
Over the past few days I have tried to engage with Lemmy about these posts in private, as I was sure it must be a misunderstanding.
However, Lemmy said that "none of the posts you linked are against our rules", and refused to even discuss the actual issues because "this format is not conducive to political disagreements".
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
I deeply regret ever having publicised Lemmy. I'm really sorry.
Don't use Lemmy.
For whatever my opinion is worth any more, I would now recommend that people cancel their donations to Lemmy, stay as far away from Lemmy as possible, and donate to another Fediverse project instead.
I was wondering whether to stay quiet, but it seemed better to speak up and say something
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Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
p.p.s. Someone has pointed out that lemmy.ml (the official Lemmy instance) resolves to the same IP address as lemmygrad.ml (the instance that contains the most disturbing material).
Lemmy.ml also federates with lemmygrad, and the devs advertise lemmygrad on their "join lemmy" site.
Do the Lemmy developers themselves run the lemmygrad.ml site? (Its main logo is a tank, incidentally.)
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression
I embraced #Lemmy for a couple months then quickly learned it’s as rich in shenanigans as #reddit. They steal communities by deposing a mod and putting destructive mods in place, censor to control the narrative, modify mod logs to hide their own actions… Lemmy was shorter lived than Reddit for me. And last I checked, all alternate instaces had fairly big issues.
Anders Rytter Hansen
•lol. just because someone believes something different about the past than official mainstream stories doesn't mean they support oppression.
Remember: the winner writes the history.
I fully support lemmy.ml's open-mindedness and ability/willingness to allow free debate about policial topics. For this exact reason I might actually consider contributing. Thanks for the good news (even though you presented it a bit differently).
Ahri Boy (archived)
•Anders Rytter Hansen
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This is difficult to fully reconcile with what actually happens on the developers' own instance, and those they feature.
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On the face of it, the developers' main Lemmy instance has lots of uncontroversial general interest threads, but when you start digging on controversial topics a worrying pattern emerges.
The worrying posts are very reminiscent of the way certain churches have handled priest abuse claims: denial.
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Other posts deny that North Korea is oppressive.
Meanwhile, another suggests celebrating Stalin's birthday as he was such a great guy.
(Incidentally, I have receipts, DM me if you want to see them for yourself.)
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China: “Like We Were Enemies in a War”: China’s Mass Internment, Torture, and Persecution of Muslims in Xinjiang [Uyghur] - Amnesty International
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These posts were on the main Lemmy instance, as featured on the official Lemmy website.
Over the past few days I have tried to engage with Lemmy about these posts in private, as I was sure it must be a misunderstanding.
However, Lemmy said that "none of the posts you linked are against our rules", and refused to even discuss the actual issues because "this format is not conducive to political disagreements".
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Don't use Lemmy.
For whatever my opinion is worth any more, I would now recommend that people cancel their donations to Lemmy, stay as far away from Lemmy as possible, and donate to another Fediverse project instead.
I was wondering whether to stay quiet, but it seemed better to speak up and say something
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https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/asa17/4137/2021/ug/
China: “Like We Were Enemies in a War”: China’s Mass Internment, Torture, and Persecution of Muslims in Xinjiang [Uyghur] - Amnesty International
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Lemmy.ml also federates with lemmygrad, and the devs advertise lemmygrad on their "join lemmy" site.
Do the Lemmy developers themselves run the lemmygrad.ml site? (Its main logo is a tank, incidentally.)
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Perhaps someone could resurrect it, to provide an alternative to Lemmy?
https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo
prismosuite / prismo · GitLab
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•Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression