I think freely indexing posts on the fediverse is maybe not a good thing!

number of individual instances?

I'll take for instance the number of services that help you find your Twitter social graph on the fediverse. I know of Debirdify, Fedifinder, and Movetodon.

There are probably a few more I don't know of, but I doubt there are more than about 10 publicly available.

There are about 10-20K primary account servers on the fediverse.

There are close to 10M accounts on the fediverse.

So roughly 1::1000::1000000 proportions there.

need an option:

WTF I have no clue but want to learn, ;)

Same goes for Kernels and Operating Systems.

If you're opposed to text/people/tag search of any kind, even those that are opt-in and respect noindex tags, please just ignore those kinds of services for this poll, and consider other kinds of services.

If you're opposed to any secondary services of any kind, well, I think you're strong disagree, since 0 is not greater than 1.

@brion OK!

What does that mean for services like debirdify or fedifinder or Movetodon?

@brion I don't think all secondary services have to expose people's personal data. An RSS reposter, shared blocklist, or a social game would be examples that don't.

I don't think I understand the meaning of the question. The phrasing is extremely convoluted.
Your explanation also made less understandable the results, since disagree would include people strongly want secondary services AND people strongly disagree with them. 🤷

I am having trouble parsing. It's ok if the quantity of index/search services (eg 17) is less than the quantity of author-accounts (eg 30M) or the quantity of publishing-instances (eg 1k) as long as ... one of those is more than 1?

@rrix why not preferable?

I'm not understanding the question here, and feel as if I'm missing critical context.

Although equality of the first two categories is probably something like siloed accounts, it can be interesting to figuring out what could be a world with more services than accounts... Isn't something like merchants vs paiements services? Or more sadly, OpenID consumers versus OpenID providers?

@nus this *was* me taking it up with the founder 😛 and it turns out that there are enough bad actors on the fediverse that it's scrambling for more safety features, which some people refuse to take seriously, which is why i'm talking about it when someone asks for opinions. if you meant bring it up with gargron, good luck getting him to listen to anyone's suggestions about making this a technology which can be used to build healthy spaces!!

@nus the fact that privacy is easy to violate in theory doesn't mean we should like making it easier.

@shoofle@nus lol

I don't get this question. Can you repeat please? 🤔

So, this was my least enjoyable poll so far.

We don't have great terminology on the fediverse for account services and other kinds of services. So a lot of people didn't get the question.

But also, the question really is, how many of a particular kind of service do we need for a healthy fediverse?

Four options might be:

- 0
- 1
- much more than 1 and much less than the number of Mastodon instances
- the number of Mastodon instances

Most folks don't think about this kind of question, though.

@rrix so, I think for a lot of types of services, there is a benefit to having a small number of instances of that type of service.

If those instances need to share data, like for a shared blocklist service, they can share with a limited number of well-known peers. This is harder with thousands of instances.

@rrix In terms of numbers of implementations, having people split their effort across a lot of implementations means getting a lot of half-baked cakes instead of a few fully baked ones.