HernanLG

3 years ago •

HernanLG
3 years ago •

I'm curious:

Are there any lucid dreamers around in Diaspora? Give a shout out. I want to pick your brains if you don't mind :)

#Dreams #LucidDreams #LucidDreaming #Dreaming #DreamWorld #DreamRealm #AstralProjection #AstralRealm

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professor rat

3 years ago •

I had an incredibly vivid dream once that the Astral Realm was a complete crock-of-shit.

Bat Andrea

3 years ago •

..best part is when you wake up and start acting normal but reality doesn't do the same.. in fact you are inside another dream :oD

Rhysy OLD ACCOUNT

3 years ago •

I have lucid dreams every so often.

@Rhysy I've had lucid dreams in which I've travelled to other star systems, into the past, into the future, and I've tested the reality of these by going somewhere I had not been to but could drive to, writing down the details, then driving there and found exactly what I saw in the dream. Going into the future I've seen a couple of historical events now in the past, Elvis's death the night before he died, and I lost my job over this one because I told people in the warehouse where I worked about it, then they announced his death over the PA that morning, that spooked people too much and so I was let go. And I saw the falling of the Berlin wall about a decade before it came down. People told me it wouldn't happen in my lifetime but I knew it would. Unfortunately it's been about three decades since I've had any of these. I miss them, loved flying. Loved being able to breath where there was no atmosphere like standing on the surface of the moon. And today perhaps I could find a way to exploit kn... show more

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KAOS

3 years ago •

I sometimes have them, but they usually feel rather short (or I don't really remember), and I haven't trained that and can't do it on purpose.

HernanLG

3 years ago •

@Bat Andrea That has happened to me once or twice in my life, but I have never become aware of the dream enough to call it lucid dreaming. I realize I am dreaming but then continue immersed on whatever plot the dream is presenting me.

@Nanook Wow that's quite a story. You're lucky that you were able to experience that. Do you have any idea of what might have changed so that you didn't have those dreams again? How is your REM sleep? working properly? (And yes, I should have directed the question to the humans of the Fediverse. Good point).

@KAOS I'm curious. If they are lucid, how can you not remember them? (i.e. How do you know they were lucid if you don't remember them?) Is it that you wake up knowing you were lucid dreaming, but can't remember what you experienced? And yes, t... show more

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KAOS

3 years ago •

If they are lucid, how can you not remember them? (i.e. How do you know they were lucid if you don’t remember them?) Is it that you wake up knowing you were lucid dreaming, but can’t remember what you experienced?

I did remember them better right after waking up, but the memory later faded and now I can't tell you about concrete dreams anymore. And in hindsight, I also don't know how long they felt. Maybe the biggest part of the dreams where non-lucid and they only became lucid shortly before I woke up? I really don't know.
At the moment, I just remember that there have been several of these moments in dreams when I thought, "ah right, I'm just dreaming, so I can just ignore this problem" or something like that.

Nanook

3 years ago •

I've never done an REM study or sleep study so have no idea. I still dream A LOT but not lucidly. I think part of it is sleep quality. When I was younger, I slept harder so if I became aware that I was dreaming I could remain in the dream. Now at 63, I tend to sleep much more lightly and becoming aware of a dream usually results in waking.

HernanLG

3 years ago •

@KAOS Aah yes, I know what you mean. I have even dreamed that I was aware that I was dreaming, but I really wasn't. I was just dreaming I was, but the awareness was also part of the auto-pilot aspect of the dream. Funny how awareness works in dreams. For me becoming truly aware that I am dreaming, as in 'waking-life' awareness, seems almost impossible. That's why it fascinates me that there are people who can do it. I wouldn't believe it possible if it wasn't already empirically shown to be the case.

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HernanLG

3 years ago •

@Nanook It must have to do with sleep quality, you are right. I have always slept very little, 6 hours on average. I guess that does not help to become aware in dreams, although my dreams are always quite vivid and feel very much real.
What I meant by REM and deep sleep are the stages of sleep. During deep sleep we just...well... sleep. It's only during the rapid-eye movement stage (REM) that we actually dream.

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Nanook

3 years ago •

@HernanLG That we only dream during REM has recently been disproven though our dreams are much more vivid in that phase.

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KAOS

3 years ago •

Yes, but... I'm pretty sure I was really aware I was dreaming, at least for a moment, and partly also actively reshaping my dream - but not too much, it didn't always work, and then I would soon wake up.
And I know that I could not do that 10 + years ago. Never happened. This is only a development of the last 3 or 4 years for me. But... thinking about it, this might have changed because I'm a mom and have lighter sleep since my son was born 4 years ago. Some part of my brain is always alert and ready to wake up. Even now that he's not a toddler anymore, I wake up right away when he shouts "Mama!" at night. With less than 1 second from him calling to me getting out of bed.
And I guess it was this change in my brain that made lucid dreams (or at least the light version of them) possible.

KAOS

3 years ago •

Btw, my husband does not have lucid dreams, from what I know. He claims to dream very little. ;) He also didn't develop this skill of "keeping an ear awake" for the child, but takes a bit longer than me to wake up when he's alone with our son. On the other hand, he falls asleep much easier and faster than me, but can also get up easily.

HernanLG

3 years ago •

@KAOS oooh ok, if you got to the stage of reshaping, then that's clearly some advanced lucid-dreaming stuff. Even if it lasts only a short time, you have one foot on the pond already. That's so cool. And interesting how waking up seems almost the "punishment" your brain applies when you become aware. Like: "Hey! You're not supposed to become aware! You broke the rule of dreaming! Dream cancelled. Awake now!". I wonder why that is, since I've heard it from other people too.
And yes, I know exactly what you mean about motherhood. I always had a strange mix of deep sleep, easiness to fall asleep, but also I am able to wake up quite easily when, for example, my daughter calls me at night. That hasn't affected my dreams though. I can even dream when I am tired and just close my eyes for a few seconds. Dreaming comes very naturally to me, just to he conscious part =/

@Nanook Could you point me to the source of dreaming while in deep sleep? I've never read about that. Thanks!

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Nanook

3 years ago •

@HernanLG@KAOS No I'm sorry I can't. I do not remember where I read about it.

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Rhysy OLD ACCOUNT

3 years ago •

My dreams vary in lucidity from having no awareness of the dream or control of it at all to a sort of hyper-lucidity where I can control absolutely everything to the smallest detail. This latter is rare. More often, if I try and force things the dream either ends or I wake up. I've learned that I actually get more control by trying to be more subtle about it... it's hard to describe. In a flying dream, the more I try and actively control where I'm going, the harder it becomes. The more gently I try, the easier it is.

Hyper-lucidity is something else, and close to having a holodeck in the head. It's like being able to feel the dream reality being generated... it is quite different from waking mental imagery, orders of magnitude more detailed. Usually in such cases I'm content to gawk at the spectacle, but sometimes I get to direct things. I tend to have lucid reams when I'm almost awake. Once I was so acutely aware and in control of the dream that I was able to deliberately both wake myself up and fall back asleep, with no discontinuity between the un... show more

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