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wow so it turns out hachyderm doesn't allow fundraising posts and has specifically told people to delete theirs

what the fuck? this isn't the kind of shit we need here on the fediverse

i know i've seen em on this hasthag here before but, putting up a fresh #fediblock for

hachyderm DOT io
Disallowed Specialized Account Categories The following are disallowed as general content on the server, thus are also disallowed as a dedicated account type. NSFW / 18+ - This is mostly due to our need to be able to comply with 18+, which isn’t in the Mastodon tooling at this time. (See our Sexual Content Policy for more information.) Fundraising - No accounts can fundraise on Hachyderm. Unofficial company / corporate accounts - As this account type is invite only, unapproved accounts will be banned. Unrecognized specialized account - Essentially if you are not a regular user, and not one of the explicitly allowed types, you should reach out to admin@hachyderm.io prior to making an account.
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i love how they ban fundraising posts

while fundraising their own hosting costs lmao

same exact shit as cupoftea.social

ugh
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here's the link to the bit of the docs that screenshot is from btw

https://community.hachyderm.io/docs/account-types/#disallowed-specialized-account-categories

Account Types

Permissible Hachyderm account types and features, with an account FAQ.
Hachyderm Community
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not allowing your users to make posts asking for donations

while asking for donations yourself

name a more iconically hypocritical duo i'll wait

#hachyderm
e One fast, easy way to donate to help finance Hachyderm is directly via Hachyderm’s GitHub Sponsors page: Hachyderm’s GitHub sponsors page has a few benefits, including: Sponsor icon on your GitHub profile (Optional) A shout out on our #ThankYouThursday on Hachyderm’s Hachyderm account starting in April. (Optional) Added to our Thank You list at the bottom of this page starting in April. For both the shoutouts and Thank You list: we will use your GitHub username by default. If you would like this changed please either submit a PR or email us at admin@hachyderm.io. Donation Options The three ways to support Hachyderm are: Donating directly to the Hachyderm project Donating to Hachyderm’s parent organization, the Nivenly Foundation Purchasing swag
Disallowed Specialized Account Categories The following are disallowed as general content on the server, thus are also disallowed as a dedicated account type. NSFW / 18+ - This is mostly due to our need to be able to comply with 18+, which isn’t in the Mastodon tooling at this time. (See our Sexual Content Policy for more information.) Fundraising - No accounts can fundraise on Hachyderm. Unofficial company / corporate accounts - As this account type is invite only, unapproved accounts will be banned. Unrecognized specialized account - Essentially if you are not a regular user, and not one of the explicitly allowed types, you should reach out to admin@hachyderm.io prior to making an account.
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if you're wondering about the reasoning behind this post

https://beach.city/@vantablack/110251505042319404

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2023-04-24 02:47:39


the point of putting instances on fediblock for having rules against fundraising

is to shun them from the wider fediverse community for having those rules, in the hopes that they will maybe change them

because policies like that harm marginalized people every single day. banning people for "begposting" is taking away their livelihood

and it's also to protect people from their users needlessly reporting those posts on other instances and getting all judgy and harassing them

#FediBlockMeta


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oh apparently #hachyderm is discussing it on github

posting this before i read it so any pertinent info will follow as i come across it

https://github.com/hachyderm/community/issues/401

Suggestion: more nuance in the fundraising rule · Issue #401 · hachyderm/community

What is your suggestion? I apologize if this is duplicative of other work/discussions, but I haven't found anything in the repo. I'd like to see more nuance applied to the fundraising rule that was...
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"We will ABSOLUTELY update the rules and our wording, and will make it clear that we support any marginalized person in need."

oh hell yes
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Content warning: but i don't like this suggestion in the original github issue and it should be obvious why

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overall tho

this is good

assuming they just allow donations posts like any other instance, with no caveats

this is good

a solid turnaround
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like

okay

this is good

this is the whole reason we do this, putting instances on fediblock for not allowing donations posts. because it hurts people

but the point isn't just to vilify some random instance for the sake of it, the point is to have the rule amended

as explained in depth here https://beach.city/@vantablack/110251505042319404

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the point of putting instances on fediblock for having rules against fundraising

is to shun them from the wider fediverse community for having those rules, in the hopes that they will maybe change them

because policies like that harm marginalized people every single day. banning people for "begposting" is taking away their livelihood

and it's also to protect people from their users needlessly reporting those posts on other instances and getting all judgy and harassing them

#FediBlockMeta


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really pleasantly surprised at this outcome
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While allowing mutual aid requests would be a good outcome, I do think it's important not to lose sight of the *other* incidents with Hachyderm in the past (the slavery analogy, the weird Nivenly business stuff, the for-profit account policy, etc.), and how generally poorly they were handled.

In Dutch the saying goes "trust arrives on foot but leaves by horseback", I'm not sure what the idiomatic English equivalent would be.
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