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That feeling when you get a new skill.

I'm still training my brushwork and my speed to complete artwork. After many failed tests, this one is starting to bring together a lot of aspects that I like. A good reason to share it with you. I hope you'll like it.

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#MastoArt #fantasyart
Digital painting with a painterly brushwork of a young woman with red hair and an armor. She stands in the middle of a landscape with a large black sword on her shoulder. Her expression is relaxed, she closes her eyes. The weather is cloudy, and the temperature of colors and saturation was designed to feel like an overcast light from a celtic land. License is mentioned: Creative Commons Attribution, and Date (2022-11-24) along the signature.
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🌈☔🌦️🍄
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lovely style! Thanks for sharing.
Fla
Fla  
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really David, you're so good, I'm amazed each time... Please keep up the good work!!!
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@fla Coucou! Merci et merci encore pour les madeleines ce dimanche; c'était sport mais j'ai réussi grâce à ça à tilter le stock du libraire :blobcheerbounce: Aussi, maintenant que j'ai vue ton avatar, je me souviens trop et ça remonte à loin, Diaspora. Rigolo comme parfois j'aurai réellement besoin de l'avatar des gens en conf 😊
@Fla
Fla
Fla  
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mon avatar c'est mon chat sur diaspora* : https://diaspora-fr.org/people/ccac722d863119dc

Et ouais, se faire un badge avec son avatar c'est un truc qu'on avait fait au fosdem avec @AugierLe42e@jaywink ca avait bien marché
@Augier (fr & en) 🏴☭ @Jason Robinson 🐍 🍻 🚴
redcat
redcat  
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great. would love to play that character in an rpg.
Connor
Connor  
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Wow this looks stunning!
вrυnυѕ
вrυnυѕ  
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Hi ! Very nice piece of Artwork ! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I would perhaps point some stuff but it's only about the scene ! 😜
+ The armor is very nice and complete : it's not a none-realistic sexy outfit like chain-mail bikini with a small plate top and that's absolutly cool !
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus Still a pair of steel boobie-cups with a sharp sternum edge.

Then I remembered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBtvS5yhTA8 and the pinned and top comment really summed up the feelings.

Female armor: Fantasy vs Reality

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@вrυnυѕ
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus Pinned from the author:

"A good number of viewers have claimed female armor made to emphasize two separate breasts would be hugely detrimental as it would direct incoming strikes to the sternum, yet still I feel this objection is a little short sighted. If there is a potential problem it’s not too hard to think of a solution instead of just saying it can’t be done."
@вrυnυѕ
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus Top comment:

"So, as a woman who used to wear armor while sword fighting, I thought I'd mention some things. First, my boobs were so strapped in that no one actually knew I had much of a chest until I wore non-combat gear. My boobs weren't lifted and separated during combat, they were squished as flat as possible to keep them out of the way, secure and comfortably immobile. […]
@вrυnυѕ
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus […] The reasons for this were many but the most important were

1, having my boobs move around a bunch while fighting was extremely uncomfortable

and 2, getting hit in the chest without my boobs compressed hurt like mad.

I forgot to pack my extra high impact sports bra with my armor one time…one time. It'd be like forgetting your cup. You remember when you get hit in the groin. […]
@вrυnυѕ
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus […] All that being said, having two inflexible bulges on my chest would also be annoying in an arm mobility sense. I really wouldn't enjoy having additional impediments to my arm swing.

I knew several women who fought and none of them wanted to emphasize their chest. While there certainly were changes that I had to make to accommodate my female forms (wider hips, narrower shoulders, etc), my chest area was flat. I wore metal scale with a padded gambison underneath. […]
@вrυnυѕ
Nicolas Le Gland
Nicolas Le Gland  
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@brunus […] Esthetically speaking, I felt I looked pretty bad-ass, just saying."
@вrυnυѕ
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@nicolaslegland

Thank you for plugin this video, I really liked seeing this demonstration about how aesthetic influenced the practical choice of historical male armor in the video. It really show that fashion was really a big part of their design over the 'practical' aspect. ☺️

@brunus
@вrυnυѕ @Nicolas Le Gland
KayhrynTink
KayhrynTink  
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Oh ME does like this one.

Empowered Women, competent and strong within themselves are very Aspirational for ALL of US!
Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤
Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤  
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sword lesbian sword lesbian sword lesbian
Conor C. Peterson :kirby_fly:
Conor C. Peterson :kirby_fly:  
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Very very very cool! I love that it conveys a magical/mystical/fantasy feeling. Love the style of the sword too! ^^
Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻
Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻  
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Speculars! You need more speculars! Let this warrior shine! 😁 Honestly: this is fine. Very well balanced, nice brush strokes.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@oliviersaraja Haha, Merci! Yes, I always have this taste for non shiny surfaces. But maybe it's time I consider that not like a taste but as a flaw. I'll try to place more dramatic specular in the future and see how it looks. Thanks for the advice! 👍
@Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻
Petit Lutin
Petit Lutin  
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Les cheveux et les jeux de lumière sont magnifiques 😍
Par contre j'aime moins l'armure qui lui protège le buste : cela lui fait des seins ronds et "indépendants" (sur une armure ça peut passer à la rigueur mais si c'était un vêtement très ajusté ce serait irréaliste, le tissu compresserait la poitrine pour n'en faire qu'un seul bloc)
Petit Lutin
Petit Lutin  
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L'illustration est très jolie, c'est juste qu'en fantasy (films, jeux) les armures féminines sont souvent très sexy ou ne protègent pas grand chose alors je tique dessus 😅
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@Petit_Lutin Ha, je vois.👍 Merci! En effet, ça n'a pas de sens de "découper" les deux formes en deux coques. Mieux vaux donc un plastron uni et un peu plus spatieux j'imagine. Je guarde ça en tête pour mes prochains design d'armure. Merci pour le retour!
@Petit Lutin
Petit Lutin
Petit Lutin  
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:blobcatheart:
Le vocabulaire me manquait 😂
Avec plaisir 😊
Elzen
Elzen  
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En vrai, ça passerait encore moins sur une armure, il me semble, dans la mesure où si une pièce de métal rigide épousait vraiment autant la forme de sa poitrine, ça risquerait fort de juste l'empêcher de respirer (on a besoin que la poitrine puisse bouger, pour ça).

D'un autre côté, c'est une représentation assez répandue, donc j'imagine que ça dépend à quel point on veut faire réaliste.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@elzen

Vrai. J'aimerai ici arriver à faire des design qui éjectent le moins possible mes lecteurs hors du récit (tout mon entrainement est dans l'optique de la suite de Pepper&Carrot). Tant que j'arrive à conserver la fameuse suspension consentie de l'incrédulité, ça marche. C'est pourquoi un retour comme celui de @Petit_Lutin est précieux car là, j'ai un design qui va sans doute passer crème pour une audience habitué JRPG et Anime fantasy, mais rebuter ceux au courant de l'incohérence.
@Petit Lutin @Elzen
Cyber Yuki
Cyber Yuki  
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Any specific parts you want us to focus on?
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@yuki2501 Feel free to comment anything that went immediately to your mind when you saw it. Especially if it is in the type of feedback "oh.... it's too bad xxxxxxxxxx wasn't better done, the piece could have been so much better with yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy , or zzzzzzzzzzz really breaks the suspension of disbelief I need to feel this piece as immersive. "
Thanks!
@Cyber Yuki
Cyber Yuki
Cyber Yuki  
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Well, the grass field could use more detail but that's about it.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@yuki2501 Thank you! Noted for next time.
@Cyber Yuki
Cyber Yuki
Cyber Yuki  
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You're welcome!

(In general I'm a sucker for details and rough plain areas kinda kill the immersion for me. Just adding some dirt or brown patches here and there would make me say something like "ooh a patch of arid land in that grass field!" instead of "meh, not enough effort.")
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint  
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I wonder how long it takes you to get to this stage
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@chengdulittlea It's a "between 2h and 3h piece" because I bypass many steps I do usually (that's the reason of my training, a technique I can consider for future Pepper&Carrot comic pages).
@Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
Ribky
Ribky  
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Excellent brushwork and use of color to help draw the viewer around the piece. Negative space is well attended to and quite frankly, beautiful. Facial expression conveys a solemn confidence in the subject's ability to swing that sword and seeing the image makes me want to know more about this character.

Great work!
Ribky
Ribky  
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You're very welcome, thank you for sharing your art 🎨 😊
alarig
alarig  
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that's quite a sword
Patrick Georgi
Patrick Georgi  
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Not related to your brushwork at all, but the breastplate's shape reminded me of https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=-vI5tdORhC0

Female armor in games - Breastplate

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montag
montag  
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It looks really good!

Here are things I liked: The way the armor shines is really realistic, but also not too flashy or distracting, and the armor has a lot of details that make it feel real and wearable. I like the use of red to make the character stand out and draw attention across them. (I liked a lot of other things too but I won't go into everything since there's a lot)

Here are my critiques: It's not super clear what the right arm is doing. It doesn't quite look like it's engaged in the action of holding the sword, but it doesn't look like a comfortable resting position either. The scratches on the blade are a nice detail but the way they're curved doesn't make them look like they happened during a swift decisive action during battle, they seem incidental like the sword got dropped or something. Maybe straighter scratches would imply a more interesting story of how they got there.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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Thank you very much for all the feedback; I agree and that's good to think about how scratches on a blade can bring additional storytelling instead of random scratches. Oh yes, her right arm was really like in; "what I do with this one". I'll try to plan better in the future.

[edit: autocorrector white arm→right arm]

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Serpent à plumes
Serpent à plumes  
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Très joli dessin. 😍 Juste un reproche, qu'on peut faire à de nombreux dessinateurs : corps féminin "classique". Ce serait bien de varier un peu. Notamment dans ce type de scène guerrière, un corps plus massif et musclé serait vraiment bienvenu. 💪
Paolo Redaelli
Paolo Redaelli  
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Beautiful but "real armour" AFAIK aren't or shouldn't be "boob shaped" 😁
I once read an Italian article on the matter but I can't find it anymore. Alternatively see https://www.themarysue.com/boob-plate-armor/ and https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boob+shaped+breast+plate+armour+are+unrealistic
Many kudos nevertheless

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David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@paoloredaelli Thanks for the report (it was already discussed on the comment). Yes, I grew up watching Anime like Knights of the Zodiac: Saint Seiya , and playing JRPG with this stylisation coming back often so I had no questioning about it. But now I see the mistake; I'll paint unified plastron next time I paint this. Thanks for the links, very interesting and sorry for the suspension of disbelief caused by this element.
@Paolo Redaelli
Melisondra
Melisondra  
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The serenity of her facial expression appears gorgeously simple. The entirety of this piece feels so easy and light then the bright red of her hair is a pop of color creating a focal point that draws the eye continually back to the armored woman. Very lovely.
Arne Babenhauserheide
Arne Babenhauserheide  
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This looks absolutely awesome! The shadowing of the armor makes it look so real and the contrast between front and back makes focusses the gaze so strongly.
Lumeinshin 3rd impact :asukaPout:
Lumeinshin 3rd impact :asukaPout:  
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looking good!
I think anime and fantasy games have poisoned my mind though, my brains half telling me 'BIGGER SWORD, BIGGGGERRRRR'
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@Lumeinshin Thanks! 🤣 Oh yes same. If I compare her sword to Cloud or the one in Nier Automata; this one is totally a medium-sized one. 😅
@Lumeinshin 3rd impact :asukaPout:
ewanderer
ewanderer  
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well I am not really a fan of boobplate, but everyone to themselves. nice colour mix and composition with the background.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@ewanderer Thanks! It's a hot topic on the comments already, I replied to it and I also agree. Thank you for your feedback!
@ewanderer
Stemy
Stemy  
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L'armure est...comment dire...un peu trop moulante.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@postroutine Je viens de regarder des vidéo du Béhourd/Buhurt ; un sport de combat en armure avec épée et tout, et il y a une ligue féminine : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yre6-jq-B-k , ça donne déjà une bonne idée de ce que c'est que d'avoir une armure fonctionnelle. 😮

@Petit_Lutin

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Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
Sco :progress: :flag_mm:  
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She looks great. Great pose, and i love the facial expression.

Only complaint is in the background. I love the basic structure of the scenery. But the colors are a bit cloudy, and mix into one'another. And backgrounds can be an afterthought to the subject. But this scenery is almost perfect. Just a bit blury on the colors.
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@Scofisticated Thank you for the feedback! Thanks, I tried a very loose 'brushy' background; but I went maybe a little too extreme on its simplification because I had more feedback like your about it. I'll keep that in mind for my future artworks. 👍
@Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
Sco :progress: :flag_mm:  
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Keep up the good work! And keep having fun. :blobthumbsup:
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@leto J'ai entendu dire qu'il y a un club autour de Carcassone. J'imagine qu'il faut une santé de rugbyman pour bouger en armure pendant un match, et aussi que le prix du matos de base doit être bien au delà du kimono blanc pour le judo à Decath' 🤣 . Surtout que j'ai lue qu'on pouvait pas venir avec des genouillère de roller blade: que du fait 'époque' artisanalement.
Du coup, j'ai bien envie d'aller voir une competition avec un carnet de croquis. 😆

@Troupier@postroutine@Petit_Lutin
@Kal Butte @Petit Lutin @Leto @Cyber-Fox 🏴‍☠️🐙
lazy cat ☮️
lazy cat ☮️  
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wow! that subtle expression on her face is just great! =) it’s rather discreet, but breaks through from inside with all the power of that “YEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!” feeling. it seems that she tries very hard to control that emotion, but she’s on the verge of laughing and jumping of joy. :D or maybe it’s all my imagination and she’s simply satisfied with her achievement and nothing more. but nevertheless her expression is priceless. =)
David Revoy
David Revoy  
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@fuzzylynx Thank you very much for detailing your reading of the facial expression, that was great to read I was able to encode this in it and it got decoded. 👍 The "simply satisfied" was what I targeted at first, but then I added a little subtle smile and not a totally relaxed mouth to try to show something more intense in herself. Very cool that you got it.
@lazy cat ☮️
Petit Lutin
Petit Lutin  
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Ça m'a fait repenser à une vieille série italienne, La Caverne de la Rose d'or 💜 , où Fantaghirò (prononcer Fantagaro), la princesse rebelle, sait lire et écrire, repousse tous ses prétendants et décide plutôt de porter une armure pour protéger son royaume.
Je ne sais pas à quel point l'armure est adaptée à son corps puisque dans l'histoire elle se déguise en homme (donc pas de plastron sexy), mais je mets ça là au cas où
https://youtu.be/XCTwPsMhKjI?t=5250

@leto@Troupier@postroutine

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