Today, I've decided to give up on my blog's commenting system.
I've been blogging for almost 20 years. I have received 13,007 comments on 978 of my posts. So why am I stopping now?
Blog post:
â https://www.davidrevoy.com/article980/ive-decided-to-give-up-on-my-blogs-commenting-system
#blog #selfhosting #pluxml #moderation
I've been blogging for almost 20 years. I have received 13,007 comments on 978 of my posts. So why am I stopping now?
Blog post:
â https://www.davidrevoy.com/article980/ive-decided-to-give-up-on-my-blogs-commenting-system
#blog #selfhosting #pluxml #moderation
Jalil
•Jaime Herazo
•Leah (Cloudstylistin)
•And you got death threads... wow? Didn't see that coming... so sorry to hear that but I hope you still get nice feedback on your posts here.
marius
•Probably needs a lot of elbow grease to adapt to other blogging platforms, but maybe it's worth knowing about. đ
Toot toot! Mastodon-powered Blog Comments
Cassidy James BlaedeDavid Revoy
•See the screenshot under for my comments system integration (on right) in-sync with my Mastodon account (on left).
It was cached, used PHP and API, and was working nicely. I made it from scratch.
Except for a single big issue: my mastodon instance flushes all the external messages after 30 days. I realized it after 2 days of dev... ... It's pointless to just show comments doomed to disappear after a month on a blog.
marius
•David Revoy
•F4GRX SĂ©bastien
•zzz
•That is what I was about to suggest !
Get the comments from the Fedi
Save 'em locally
Filter & display 'em on the website
@davidrevoy @mariusor
David Revoy
•@mariusor
F4GRX SĂ©bastien
•Jerry Wham
•David Revoy
•@diarra @f4grx @mariusor
zzz
•Dans ce cas ne pourrait-on pas leur encoyer un lien unique par un bot masto dĂ©diĂ©, qui enverrait un toot direct (privĂ©) en cas de demande de suppression ?
@jerry_wham @f4grx @mariusor
David Revoy
•Pour des solutions techniques; le mieux c'est encore le compte avec login/pass; et laisser l'user Ă©diter/supprimer ses trucs; c'est ce que je conseillerai aux espaces commentaires de blog moderne. Mais ça transforme vite un simple espace commentaire en un forum đ
@jerry_wham @f4grx @mariusor
Olivier Saraja âïžđđŠđžđ»
•David Revoy
•Tiens, j'ai guardĂ© une fois ce vieux screenshot:
Olivier Saraja âïžđđŠđžđ»
•Jour
•đ Oh my...some people definitely need medication or jail time if it doesn't work...or maybe both.
Be safe.
David Revoy
•@oliviersaraja
Olivier Forget
•zzz
•@oliviersaraja
StephaneHuart
•Kujiu
•David Revoy
•Nath
•Je dois avouer que j'ai Ă©tĂ© surpris d'apprendre qu'il y ait autant de modĂ©ration Ă faire (menaces de mort, sĂ©rieux ?) pour un blog qui n'Ă©voque pas vraiment des sujets polĂ©miques.
Est-ce que connais globalement quels sont tes contenus ou prises de positions qui inciterait Ă autant de haine de la part des rageux ?
David Revoy
•F4GRX SĂ©bastien
•Jean-Baptiste
•@roipoussiere
David Revoy
•The blog required like an access to a sFTP to edit a PHP file to enter a custom array of IP address .... Oh my... I remember doing that this year in the middle of a tropical forest at Reunion, interrupting a short hike with my wife. Crazy...
Moini
•I'll just move to commenting, congratulating and cheering you on here, then!
đ§ââïž đš đïž
David Revoy
•Marco Bresciani
•And my first comment/feedback is: good choice. Unfortunate, but good choice.
Keep up! đđ»
David Revoy
•phαηâ âm :fedora: đž đłïžâđ â
•Tout mon soutien.
Ce monde me fait...
#soutine
David Revoy
•phαηâ âm :fedora: đž đłïžâđ â
•Et tu vois, hasard ou pas, avant de te rĂ©pondre, j'Ă©coutais "Ma France' et 'Nuit et Brouillard' de Jean Ferrat.
Ceci Ă©tant, quand Ă toi, ne lĂąche rien.
"Les chiens aboient, la caravene passe."
Jour
•I'm following you since a few months ago , but I totally understand your situation regarding spam and hate mail.
What I'm surprised is with the death threats... Then again the www as we know it is becoming more and more agressive.
Anyway do share your blog posts around here. đđ©
David Revoy
•Yes, more and more aggressive but on Mastodon less and less; they are excluded by moderation doing its amazing work at a federation level. It's building a bubble of good human interaction and that's nice. Twitter was a big driver of negative comments on my blog, IMO, and also obscure Fediverse instances when they could still federate with my account. I hope the coming days will be easier on this side. Thanks for following my art!
fsnk :NeonCat:
•I'm sorry that happened to you
David Revoy
•David Revoy
•A la fois, je commençais aussi Ă voir parmis tous les blog statique genre Hugo/Pelican la disparition des espaces commentaires sur site.
ActivityPub
www.w3.orgBshow
•Se dire qu'Ă cause d'idiots, tu dois te "censurer" dans tes interactions, c'est chiant.
Mais l'important, c'est ton bien ĂȘtre pour continuer Ă proposer ce que tu souhaites.
Soutien incompressible @davidrevoy, parce que ton contenu, c'est vraiment stylĂ© (pour moi đ)
David Revoy
•Wiaaam
•gee â¶â
•At Mind
•David Revoy
•Garillaz â
•AurĂ©lien GĂąteau đșđŠ
•An alternative I am playing with (but I am very far from having your audience size) is to add a link "Discuss this article on Mastodon" at the end of my posts. With just a link (not inlined Mastodon comments), you give readers a place to comment but the moderation stays on Mastodon side.
AurĂ©lien GĂąteau đșđŠ
•David Revoy
•So, maybe adding a masto ID in my admin panel and writing a link in the footer to invite to read comments is probably something I'll do.
Carl Schwan :kde:
•Adding comments to your static blog with Mastodon
Carl SchwanDavid Revoy
•I abandoned it because I thought my instance was trashing all comments after 30 days.
Maybe I'll digg back in my git history to find it and reinstall it. It was like 100% ready: screenshots:
Carl Schwan :kde:
•David Revoy
•@agateau
AurĂ©lien GĂąteau đșđŠ
•David Revoy
•@carlschwan
Poroto SĂłrdido
•Fred le bel
•Courage Ă toi.
David Revoy
•Jookia
•David Revoy
•Xuan-Xabier Huynh
•David Revoy
•Err.503 Democratie Unavailable
•Et merci pour tout tes magnifiques dessins et BD đ
NiTroll Robin đ
•Soutien et courage pour la suite, j'espĂšre que ces gens haineux prendront un jour conscience de leur bĂȘtise et du mal qu'ils font.
lareinedeselfes
•Je te fais des gros bisouscâlinous @davidrevoy
pour te redonner courage et faire fuir les mots de ces gens pleins de haine.
Celleux qui apprécient tes dessins trouveront toujours un moyen de te le faire savoir. même de façon éphémère. 😍
Attention, attaque de bisous câlinous !
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Je te fais des gros bisouscĂąlinous @davidrevoy
pour te redonner courage et faire fuir les mots de ces gens pleins de haine.
Celleux qui apprĂ©cient tes dessins trouveront toujours un moyen de te le faire savoir. mĂȘme de façon Ă©phĂ©mĂšre. đ
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David Revoy
•đ đ đ
@Troll
Zekovski
•J'espĂšre que ça va te libĂ©rer d'un poids mentalement et que tu pourras te sentir plus tranquille.
David Revoy
•Geoff
•You need to look after yourself - so you are doing the right thing.
Be well ! And thank you.
David Revoy
•bakaniko
•libresurf
•Je comprends ta dĂ©cision et de soutiens dans ce sens.
Bon courage et surtout continue de nous ravir avec tes merveilleuses créations !
David Revoy
•David Revoy
•Algot
•Thank you for the great work you do, and don't beat yourself up about cutting off the commenting system. Mean-spirited bozos are too much drain on a person to endure.
Bon chance!
David Revoy
•Jerry Wham
•David Revoy
•Pour les commentaires de Masto; j'ai eu plus d'infos aprĂšs la publication de mon article.
Il y a eu un accident de manip cÎté mon instance et les réponses à tous mes toots sont parties à la poubelle. Ne le savant pas, j'avais déduit à tord que le serveur mettait à la poubelle toutes réponses de plus d'un mois. Du coup j'avais abandonné mon code qui synchronisait mon blog et mon Masto. J'ai mis à jour une note dans l'article. Je vais reétudier ça.
Your Autistic Life
•I did have a blog that I eventually killed for a lot of reasons. It did have a commenting system on it, but I was never very popular, and I was able to keep the idiots at bay.
I've been writing on Medium and substack... and my presences is growing in the fediverse. I now have a Firefish instance, from which I post my thoughts into the fediverse. I've been thinking of opening up registrations, but I'm almost certainly going to require payment, to turn away the jackasses that would like to ruin everybody's experience.
It sucks when people can't behave.
David Revoy
•Off topic: but do you know where I could read why FireFish split from Misskey? I couldn't find a lot of info about it. ( nothing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefish , or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misskey )
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•David Revoy
•@yourautisticlife
Marlene Breitenstein Art
•I adore your work, and discovered it here. Furthermore, I believe after you adjust, you'll find a big weight has been lifted from your shoulders. We will keep expressing our gratitude to you and adoration of your characters here. đâïžâ€ïž
I recently started my blog without comments, so I'll never miss them.
David Revoy
•@atomicpoet
David Revoy
•raphael
•David Revoy
•morph
•Touhoppai
•Courage, on est tous derriĂšre toi !
D. Moonfire
•That breaks my heart, not only that people continually make the threats because they don't ever suffer the consequences but also because you have to pay to deal with them because of frequency.
David Revoy
•And sorry about my bad usage of the word "Deposit", it's because in French do a statement/report to the police is named "une DĂ©position". I fixed the article, police didn't asked me any money. But I spent time, a lot of time on making my dossier.
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•https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=deposition&oldid=75104636#English
deposition - Wiktionary
en.wiktionary.orgDavid Revoy
•Words that are close like that between my native language and English are painful. I do many mistakes of meaning because of them đ
@BjoernJagnow
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•ktanner :gentoo: :openbsd:
•Nour Agha :popos:
•giscus
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•David Revoy
•đ» ~/hyde đ
•I have to think about a way to display them in case my instance has to disappear at some point...
jlbec
•I personally continue to follow the Slashdot-era rule: "Never, ever read the comments." But I'm a visitor, not the owner seeking feedback.
Klebs (Les Ateliers PHV)
•Petit Lutin
•toverna
•Le piaf
•haaadr
•FWIW, if you ever revisit this there's a thing called cactus comments which basically implements comments via the matrix chat protocol, so your comment section is like a matrix room (and AFAIK you can moderate it in a similar way to matrix rooms, so others could help you). https://cactus.chat/
Cactus Comments
Cactus CommentsMatt Gemmell
•YoYunix
•Nogweii
•David Revoy
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